Who's making the killer Bordeaux glass now?

And hover boards

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Agree with @MChang here. The Grassl 1855 is virtually perfect for Bordeaux in my opinion.

Me too! I have a set of Zalto Bordeaux but my everyday glass (and the one I will use for multitudinous wine-tasting meetings) is the Spiegelau Definition which amazingly similar.

For whites and Champagnes I beg to differ. I think the Gabriel Glas Gold surpasses the Zalto Universal both in shape and feel.

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I have a pair and, truthfully, what keeps me from using them more is they’re challenging to wash. My sponge won’t easily reach the bottom and my hand is too large to get very far in there. I did use them last night, however, with an exceptional 1987 Woodward Canyon Old Vines Cab and it was a great showing with the 1855.

The glasses go to the dishwasher.

Yep, but I only hand wash. No dishwasher implement, which I know I could buy, but have chosen not to.

for what it’s worth, I don’t have any special dishwasher implement either-but mine fit on the bottom rack next to where the plates go ( I would have the same hand-washing challenges but the washing machine does wonders) with a bit of microfiber touch-up -gently-after they are done. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised if you try it

Same here. Just put them on the bottom. So far I have broken 1 in like 3 years. And I use a lot of stems.

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I’ll add to the Grassl 1855 praise. Picked up some during BD as well and they’re my favorite by far (I keep them in a portable wine glass case (also BD purchase)). I feel the stem/bowl weight distribution is near flawless with the 1855 compared to anything I’ve used prior.
I rarely use my Josephine anymore which seems like the weight is 100% evenly distributed from top to bottom, almost too light and feels overly top heavy (like a toy) when there’s a pour in it.

Why would you hand wash glasses? Much higher risk of breakage.

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I can never really get them as clean either. I feel like they just look nicer fresh out of the wash

I don’t think Brandon has a dishwasher (machine).

Never heard of this but elegant shape.

That Kane glass, also never heard of, but looks like a beaut!

Super interesting thread and feedback-thanks to everyone for contributing.

It would be interesting to know how many glasses people generally buy of these? Is it a set of 2, 4, 6 etc? I don’t host very often so wondering what a sensible number would be.

I mean, that all depends on your use. I have hundreds of high end stems, but realistically probably would only need like 3 sets of 12 at the very most.

If it were me, I’d buy 1 each of the 2 glasses I like the best. Compare them and then fill out the rest with a set. I don’t host much so I find 4-6 is fine for me. YMMV.
You could keep or sell the other. Use it as a spare or something. Might be able to find something on a berserker Day deal here before too long as well.

I have a lot of glasses, and we do host often, so most shapes that I use and like, I have 6-12. Then I have boxes of less expensive stems for large parties,.

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Years ago I decided our house stem would be Grassl. We have the 4 primary shapes. I like to have 4 Liberte at all times, and then at least 8 of the other three. We also entertain rarely, but rarely is more often than never. If I was on more of a budget than I already am, I’d probably cut it down to 4 stems across the board and perhaps even eliminate the Liberte shape from the lineup. I hate having singleton glasses.

It feels elegant in your hands and makes you want to drink. On your next trip to Bordeaux, you’ll see Sydonios all over the place. Look for the initials SY on the base, though most use a smaller glass, due to less breakage, and space.