Yeah, depending on the deal they got, I’m expecting $299 - $349 a case.
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I bet closer to $400…it retails for almost the double the estate cab. I’m slamming buy if its $299.
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My guess is that the proprietary red will be $400, and it may be quite a dance to get my husband to allow me to buy it. Christmas present? Anniversary? Last prop red was 496 for $349 a case and the source wine retailed for around $120.
Anyway, I wanted to share the response from support on my cork inquiry. They are standing by the ability of these wines to age:
“The closures we use in our bottlings are made by MA Silva, which is in the top tier of suppliers in terms of quality. They are TCA-free, extremely consistent, and optimal for medium to long-term aging.
Production records show that when Cam was still with the company, he was using a Nomacorc closure with technical specifications allowing a higher rate of oxygen transmission than what we are using now, so you should expect even more life out of the bottles with the current closures.
Your practice of waiting 2-3 years to drink the reds is a good one – keep it up! Make sure you save a few, though – you should expect an even better experience once you pass the 5-year mark. We recommend opening a bottle of all our big reds from Napa/Sonoma at least once a year so you can experience the journey and evolution that each wine goes through.”
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I’m going to get a sixer. Cab Franc just doesn’t show up that much. The premium for a six pack vs the entire case is $5 a bottle - I’m fine with that.
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Nice response! And I agree with this assessment of MA Silva. All producers have different grades, but they are top notch quality from my brief experience buying corks. I got some MA Silva one time from a winery second hand, leftovers from their annual bottling run, unstamped, and they were likely the best quality corks I ever used.
This is an improvement over Nomacorc, imo.
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With so many of the 2022 CS being sold through DN I think they will find it hard to price the prop blend above $299 unless the new faces want to jump in at the more expensive end for unknown wine. Surely you give them a good experience to get them started.
Probably should take this into private messages
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Sorry, I thought these were private emails.
Michael,
You can simply delete the original post - message will say “deleted by author”.
Cheers, Tim
I’ve never used whatever sleuthing methods you guys use to see what’s in the pipeline, but any promising whites on the horizon? My guess is no one will be sorry they bought the SM CF
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Just looked it all up and here is what we have to look forward to! Only one white wine registered.
Lot 515 - 2022 Spring Mtn. Prop Red
516 - 2022 Oak Knoll Cabernet (registered by Trefethen, so presumed to be a shiner)
517 - 2023 St. Helena Petit Verdot
521 - 2023 Carneros Chardonnay
519 - 2023 Paso Robles Tannat
522 - 2023 Napa Merlot
523 - 2023 Paso Robles Red Blend
524 - 2023 Oak Knoll Cab Franc
528 - 2023 Paso Robles Cabernet Sauv
529 - 2023 Napa Red Blend
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This looks like a $50-$60 bottle of wine retail. Wonder what they sell it for…
Matt,
$199/case delivered…? taking bets. LOL.
Cheers, Tim
Yah, that’s as good a guess as anything but shiners are usually discounted less.
Might be 25/bottle/shipped.
Speak of the devil….the angry grape!!!
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FYI, Vina Robles produces an estate Tannat from their Huerhuero Vineyard. And as we know, Courtney Benham recently purchased this winery.
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Given the lack of sourcing journey commentary like we got on the spring mountain CS/CF, an internal source seems likely here. CT scores are disappointing. I love tannat but with a full cellar this is an easy pass.
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Thanks to @Michael_Singsen for a mixed case of 30-120.
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We’ve opened a few Lot 304 and enjoyed them all. It is very delicate in style - so - be careful what you pair it with.
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What is de Negoce up to?
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