De Negoce offer (Part 2)

Checkerboard makes a red blend too, maybe that’s 496 then?

Possible, guess we’ll find out next week! But 496 was labeled a Napa Valley Prop Red, not Diamond Mtn. I think Checkerboard labels their blend Diamond Mtn, but labeling it Napa could be NDA smoke and mirrors.

I was thinking n.497 could be Diamond Creek Vineyards, a lot matches up, including the alcohol level as 14.3% is generally where they land. But may be missing a winemaking “team”. Cardinale and Lakoya have winemaking “teams”, Lakoya matches up with the ABV almost perfectly. Just throwing some ideas out there.

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Constant matches up here a LOT as well.

This is very encouraging. I guess you’re not at liberty to say more. I broke my buy no more 2022 policy for this. It just felt like a throwback deal. I was a little sad to let 500 slip by, but I have no idea what the new corporate overlords think about round lot numbers and clearly buying the more expensive 401 and passing on 400 was the way to go.

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In theory, you wouldn’t sell your best stuff with the round numbers. They sell themselves since it’s a round number. You’d sell the best stuff with off round numbers cause hopefully they such good value propositions, you’d buy even though it’s not a round number! Seems like marketing 101. In this dumb business.

Is Constant and Diamond Mountain Vineyard one and the same ?

Sounds as though the Constants sold out to a family from China

Allocation only (if you’re even able to get access)

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I broke my no buying pledge today with a 6er of 497. The dN description gave me confidence its an actual wine the winery makes and sells. Also their wording, “it’s readily over $200/bottle” makes me suspect / hope that it is in the $220 - $250 range (assuming they’re honest). As someone else mentioned earlier, I like 6 with these higher priced lots because it doesn’t blow a hole in my budget and the shipping cost doesn’t add as much cost per bottle percentage wise. With these new NDAs though, we’ll never really know the source. I guess this is the downside of WB members being such good sleuthers in the past.

Edit: As of 2:36 PT, dN 497 and 499 are at “low stock”, but 498 isn’t yet.

4:03 PT update: 497 sold out.

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What does readily available over $200 supposed to mean from their angle? That doesn’t seem like a selling point?

You can find it everywhere you look for $200+ because it’s overpriced?
Weird marketing language imo.

Robert,
Verbage states “Readily OVER $200/bottle” vs Readily AVAILABLE over $200. Match low avialability to fetching > $200/bottle the math works better.

Cheers, Tim

Thanks, makes sense…my brain was confusing the verbage for some reason :cheers:

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I would still say readily does’t seem to be a fitting word in the sentence. Here’s the longer version:

we’re not allowed to disclose the original price, but it’s readily over $200/bottle, $2400/case (if you’re even able to get access).

Here’s a definition I found of readily:
without difficulty.

Perhaps they mean “well over $200”. When the winery doesn’t want the price revealed, I wonder how far off dN has to be to meet this requirement. I would expect it to be pretty far. If the wine is $220 and dN says its about $200, you sleuthers would figure it out. As I’ve said before, if dN is honest, I believe their ad prices are lower than the actual winery price.

I think it’s pretty clear they mean “easily” in the context. I don’t get the confusion.

They are signaling it retails for much over $200, not that it matters. Just a poor choice of word.

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Yes I still think this is true, but hey on to the next one…

Since we’ve beat the readily dead horse enough, what about the bottling date of 497. The ad states it can be drunk with a decant so does that mean it’s past bottle shock?

Lot 497 out for shipping today.

Cheers, Tim

Bottling date (Lot 497 Diamond Mountain Cab Sauv): 2024-08-06.

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So just some east coast shipping commentary. My Lot 492 Petite Sirah is going onto the temp controlled truck today for the drive east. No sign of lot 500, 499 or 497 shipping yet.

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Same for Texas