Imo, one of the main reasons dN still has some business is because they have good operations & marketing. Their overall buying experience, logistics, and customer service is much better than most other places. And of course, free shipping for 12+ bottles.
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I have to agree that my experience CS-wise has been very good. I remember that there were a lot of fulfillment problems under Cam causing him to fire the company that was responsible. Since then itās improved. I do recall a number of customers complaining about cooked wine shipped cross country during the summer. I donāt recall if those problems were under Cam or the new owners. Weāll see how they do this summer.
Those of us who were dN customers during the transfer of wine and fulfillment to the new company remember all the great deals on lots that were lost, then found in the warehouse and blown out at less than tranche 1 prices. For me, that was dNās golden age.
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For me, lot 430 was the first wine I purchased that I realized whoever tasting this wine is different. I think new ownership got a good deal from a high end winery and just jumped on it taste be damned.
To be fair , Cam sort of did that with lot 400 so that he could get the 401.
Cam left dN in late spring/early summer 2023, but his linkedin now says Jan, 2023.
They definitely didnāt announce it and I think were hoping a lot of people wouldnāt notice. Lots of spirited discussion that summer and fall trying to figure out what happened.
Essentially the owners of Martin Ray took it over, but it seemed sudden and strange for Cam not to be a figurehead/brand ambassador or at least continue as the wine buyer for some period after.
Great catch!
Letās see what happens when he starts a new wine businessā¦
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I ordered lot 468 which is supposed to ship late May. Since its already a bottled and aged 2018, Iām planning on opening a bottle the night I get my case. Iām thinking that this tasting will tell me whether the new ownership is keeping up Camās standard.
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I bought 468 as well because it seemed like such a layup. We knew the wine and it is actually a shiner rather than dN having any involvement other than slapping a label on it. (even the cork is the wineries.) You can go to CellarTracker and Vinous etc and see what other thought of it. Its not bulked out juice the winery had no need for, its bottles of what they intended to sell that need to go.
The only other current release I did was 446 with a credit I had from the 400 after expressing my disappointment with it. (I did not demand a refund or anything I just offered to send it back because it tasted like it had been finished in rubber. ) The only review I see on 468 so far is not very good. I think Iām going to be patient though because the Ehret wines donāt enter a drinking window until 7 years from vintage. You canāt even buy anything past 2019 from them right now.
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I bought 446 as well, in large part because of the confidence I had in the source guess. I tried to buy 400 but had checkout problems and it was sold out minutes after the official time of release. One thing I learned from that experience with dN is that new wines are put on the sight before the email notification so we can actually buy it much earlier than the email / text. If I had 400, I would let it age for a good long time before opening any more bottles. I have a feeling that it will be quite good around 2030 or soā¦
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Iāve got a case of 400 that I wonāt touch for at least a few more years. Hopefully it matures & improves beyond all the poor reviews of drinking it young.
When I bought #17 on release, I thought it was terrible. Years later, it became somewhat of a board favorite. Hoping for the same 
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I am still a dN supporter and am cautiously to moderately optimistic. The 2023ās coming up could be worthwhile & interesting? Iām sure interested.
Btw, I never saw a #358. Canāt figure it out. I admit to being numerically oriented/obsessed.
Maybe this is a clue or whatever??
Or this?
Cheers, peace, love & prosperity to all. 
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Thank you Bob! Nice, Still available @$29/b. I came across that funny number elsewhere and couldnāt find it on:
I obviously missed that interesting 2014 vintage Medoc wine, cheers!
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will he make a triumphant return with the 2023 vintage?
I hope so!
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In for 2 cases. These actual shiner lots are LIT. Great price, too.
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It seems to have a dN cork though. Is it a real shiner in this case? 
Thats a stock photo. It wonāt have a dN cork. (Same thing happened w/ the last shiner where they said the cork will give it away yet the photo had a dN photo)
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Pulled the trigger on a case as well
To be clear (so the haters donāt hate on me later), this SHOULD NOT have a dN cork. That IS a stock photo (same thing happened last time when they explicitly said we will know the winery when we open the cork) but, of course, I have no way to know if the new owners of dN are using the word āshinerā correctly here but they say straight from the cellars of the winery so, yah, it 100% should not have a dN cork! Iād be shocked if it does.
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FOMO
Iām in for a case. Initial sleuthing didnāt reveal an obvious winery.