Today, I was happy to receive #447 & #450, one case of each. My only two 2022 dN CS’s. Going light on 2022’s.
The delicious 2019 Red Hills #193, sold me on #447, good quality & price, somewhat unpopular Appellation?
The #450, a division of 50. What else could I do? This freshly bottled Mountain wine will need another 4 years, I suspect??
I’m now buying wines to drink in my 70’s, (optimistic?)! In another twelve months, I’ll be buying 2023 wines to……?
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Drinking a #193 now, after finishing a young 2017 Ridge Monte Bello, and thoroughly enjoying it.
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Order Disappeared
It may be a senior moment on my part. Has anyone else had one of their Denegoce orders disappear? I swear I ordered 6 bottles of the 450 offer in early March, and used my points to reduce the cost. However there is no record of the order on Denegoce.com, no order confirmation and it does not look like my credit card was charged. However my points balance is zero.
I emailed support, lets see what they can find out.
I did experience some denegoce website glitches when trying to order lot #400 at tranche 1 which delayed my purchases and ended up eventually giving me a ‘sold out’ message. Maybe your experience was similar. Based on this site’s mixed reviews of 400, maybe it turned out for the best.
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My only glitch was user error when I thought I had actually completed the order but didn’t.
But I was confident I completed it, contacted CS but to no avail.
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Two really interesting articles…
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For sure the next 18-24 months will be high tide for the glut.
Case in point, China has recently agreed to reopen its people availability’s to Australian wines ( it’s how their system works)…With 1.5 billion people it doesn’t take much intake to pull in a tonne of wines.
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I’ve heard Cam is coming back and making dN great again.
Is that true @Cameron_Hughes?
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April 1st, folks. Unfortunately 
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A second realization that I took away from the articles shared by JDutco is that there are a large number of wines that use upwards of 20% juice sourced from LOW COST COUNTRY. I would assume this places a unique challenge to the winemaker. Imagine some (many) of these wineries in which there are strategies of the winemaker combine with the desires of the owner, and the constant feedback from the accountant . I bet that there are more than a few accountants communicating that on some plots in California, there may be better potential profit in strawberries or onions. If you want gray hairs, become a wine maker.
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I suppose this is tangentially related, but barely. If you read the article, all of the bulk wine is being brought in by the giants, Constellation, Gallo, etc., for their grocery store labels. Nearly all of the DN offers note 100% CA AVA, estate vineyards, etc., so unless they are flat out lying, none of this is being blended into DN wines. There in another thread already dedicated to this topic so maybe continue the speculations there. Thanks.
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Popped a 446 (good). Looks like new corks. Says “THE FUTURE OF WINE” on them.
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I literally just got my lot 446 today and have stowed it away for awhile. What about bottle shock? Quite a number of members here have opened bottles soon after bottling and reported that they were very good. It makes me wonder if bottle shock really exists in all bottled wine or just occasionally.
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Check the weight of the wine bottle. If the bottle is much lighter than normal, there is an increased likelihood the wine is “Blue Bin.”
My experience with bottle shock is that it takes a day or 2 to set in. Arrival date is generally good for consumption.
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Didn’t feel any different - also it’s not a twist off.
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Has anyone tried 409?
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Also wondering. People didn’t like this offering back in Aug and I think very few bought.
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