De Negoce offer (Part 2)

My brother-in-law who is a Terry Hoage aficionado is 99.9% sure that this lot 304 is from Hoage’s Decroux label. I don’t drink PN, but could that be a fit? Terry Hoage closed up shop and retired earlier this year.

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Did they change hands or didn’t they just retire?

Might have sold off this label since it did not have his “name” on it!

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In for 304 - Sta Rita Pinot is my wife’s favorite.

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alc on the Longoria is 14.8…Can says 14.5 on the 304

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Hard to compare given different vintages

In for a case. No matter the source it’s hard to imagine this being a bad deal at $13/bottle.

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In for a case of #304. Doh, Only 150 cases T1???
Reds I ordered so far this year: 11 CS orders, 2 PN orders.
I needed this PN to balance out my cellar.
Non-Reds=1/2 case of Sparkling, 1/2 case of Chardonnay.
Reds Rock! CS & PN!!!
Thanks Cameron

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Longoria 2019, produced only 31 cases.
I could drink that whole delicious offering, pronto!

If I had passed on #304?
HUGE NON-BUYERS Remorse!!!

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You need to also get yourself some of the Santa Barbara and Ballard Canyon Syrahs, I don’t think you will be disappointed.

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In for one just because :grinning: :wine_glass:

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Just a note here on the original brand “quietly changed hands”, Foxen owners passed the winery onto the next generation in mid '22. Mid $70 would line up with a Fe Ciega bottling as noted by Claude above.

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Dammit, Cam. You sucked me in on this one. Very likely to be a winner like the other recent SBC offerings.

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In for 2.

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In for a case of 304. But the reality is that I’m totally out of space…
Question for the wine people: I’m planning to buy a 400-bottle wine fridge that I found on craigslist to put in my garage. It’s about 6-8yrs old. It has a WineMate 1500CD cooling unit that seems to be working fine. Is this a dumb purchase? I don’t know anything about these things…how long do they last? Concerned that it will fail on me very soon…

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checks all the right boxes for me, in for a case

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So this board has bought like 75 cases of this Pinot that only has 150 cases and it’s not sold out. (I kid but clearly 10 or 20 or more cases have been sold on here).

Yesterday, a single person said they bought the Cab w/ 600 cases available and a price point of more than 2x this Pinot and it “sold out”.

I just wouldn’t pay too much attention to any of of the sold out/not sold out/cases available stuff. I noticed it pretty early on when cases were added (could see how many cases were actually available due to a shopify glitch).

The good news is none of this matters, just marketing. The wine is what matters.

Just never call a bottle you’ve bottled but never labelled but eventually labelled it de Negoce a “shiner” ever again. :crazy_face:

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Vitor,
Some > 2 decades of wine cooler experience…garages are challenging environment for wine storage. I have a built in cellar on a South by West exposure garage. Hot? Hell yeah. Well insulated R30 sides/ R60 ceiling, use a 12K AC unit to cool it. BEFORE that, I had an inexpensive 180 bottle cooler in that same garage that was gifted by a friend who bought a vineyard to leave High Tech. It worked OK, struggled in summer, then I gifted that to my Thursday night drinking buddy. He CLEANED the cooling unit, resealed cooling unit too. Cleaned and replaced worn door seals, used it for 5 years before he built a cooler in his kitchen. He now has giifted this 180 bottle unit to a friend in Stockton. This > 20 yr old cellar AND cooling unit still works!
The way I see it Vitor
A) Buy the working unit and perform some of the same method my friend did above
B) Just build in a unit as getting one UNDER capacity unit will lead you down a slippery slope. I say under capacity as will you stop at JUST 400 bottles? Matt and others did not either :grinning:
Cheers, Tim

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There are two “sh” words that send this thread into a frenzy:
“Shiner” and “Shipping” :joy::joy:

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