Why German Red Wines Used to Suck (and No Longer Do) The Coming New German Pinot Noir Revolution

Anyone who has been to a German winery to taste will tell you about the dreaded moment that lingers over the tasting. It’s when they bring out the red wines. You sit down, you have pleasant conversation, 15 delicious, well made white wines in increasing order of sweetness. And finally, they ask you if you want to try the reds. Your stomach grumbles in fearful anticipation, you wince, try not to show your fear and say “yes, I’d love to.”

Now if you are really unlucky, they bring out the Dornfelder. Dornfelder is this incredibly high yield grape (with clusters twice the size of a cow’s udder) used to make reliably cheap and horrid red wines for “local consumption.” Local consumption means that no one who has access to wine that is grown more than 5 miles from the winery would ever buy them. They are basically German Thunderbird.

If you are slightly less unlucky, they bring out the pinot noir. The nose is what I like to call “Spatburgundery.” A sort of nasty combination of green peppers and gasoline. The wines typically tasted of new oak and lacked much fruit. Overall, a ghastly experience.

(I must say that a few producers always made good or great red wine - I include Sebastien Furst, Rebholz and Huber as examples).

The Germans are among the most efficient people on earth. I’ve known them to serve soft boiled eggs with a timer so that they are eaten after the exactly proper number of seconds of post-cooking rest. They make some of the best engineered cars in the world. Cameras. Industrial equipment, you name it. You can get through a German airport in about 5 minutes. And, of course, they are famous for riesling. Like them or not, both sweet and now dry rieslings are very well made and consistent. And Geisenheim (their most famous wine school) is reliably churning out new, talented winemakers like a factory.

So why did the red wines suck so badly for so long? And why are they finally getting better?

Clueless About Wood

German Riesling is generally fermented in steel and/or large wooden barrels that do not add much wood flavor. The Germans, as a result, do not have much experience with the effects of wood on wine (good and bad). This extends to their professors at Geisenheim (according to a young German winemaker who is a recent graduate). As such, they had no idea how to age their wines in wood so as to provide structure and certain flavors but not take over and dominate the wines.

Climate

While there are many microclimates in Germany and the South is, obviously, hotter, the German climate is relatively cool. 40 years ago, they had difficulty getting grapes to be ripe with developed flavors.

Technique

There are many lesser well known techniques that allow winemakers to tweak the flavor of their wines. I’m not talking about the mad science of recent years (like reverse osmosis) but relatively simple things like adding stems or controlling temperature during fermentation. I was with a very famous, well regarded German maker of red wine who said that this vintage was the first year that he had added stems to his wine. The point is that because there so few winemakers making quality red wine, there was no community to experiment with and share these techniques. Winemakers frequently meet and taste each other’s wines share ideas and see how they work. This didn’t really happen with fine red wine as few people were making it.

The Reduction in Suck and the Path to Greatness

A few years ago, I started to notice that the general suckiness of German reds was starting to decrease. Now I am seeing a trend of German red wines actually starting to be great.

First, the climate is generally hotter and more German winemakers are trying to make red wine.

Second, many young Germans are apprenticing at well regarded makers of red wine (in Germany and Burgundy).

Third, Germans are learning how to make red wine in their climate. They are learning how to use wood. And this knowledge is spreading.

I am not arguing that the German red wine industry is ready to take on Burgundy’s best. There are some producers making excellent red wine to rival some very good producers in France. And why not? Political boundaries are the work of man, not nature or God. Geologic formations and soil types know nothing of politics and Germany is a giant country with many microclimates. Some regions are generally well situated for pinot noir and others have microclimates that can allow for the making of great pinot noir.

Germany is already the third largest maker of pinot noir in the world. They are on their way to being a large producer of quality pinot noir.

And red wine experts are starting to notice. Tim Atkin conducted a famous blind tasting of 400 German Pinot Noirs in 2011 and selected 20 as the representatives of Germany for an international testing (judges included Jancis Robinson and Stephan Reinhardt).
http://www.timatkin.com/articles?250 The Germans reds were 7 of the top 13 scorers and 2 of the top 3 scorers (they were over-represented) but outperformed several top tier Burgundies (including Dujac’s 2007 MSD).

Some of the new German Pinot Noir is more traditionally Burgundian. When aged, it is richer and tastes of sweet wood. But some is sort of like the dry Riesling version of Pinot. Heavily mineralic and just exquisitely refined and balanced. The fruit is there but the wine is not about the fruit. It’s about the aromatics and mineral/fruit/acid balance. These are early days as the number of very good and great producers still count in the low dozens. But a New German pinot noir style is in the making in front of our eyes. It is almost at critical mass.

These wines are still very, very inexpensive compared to their pinot counterparts in France and the US. That is changing as the Germans learn about these wines and bid up their prices. But make no mistake, the German Pinot Noir revolution is underway.

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Let me preference this by saying Lyle is a friend.

Once again an idiotic uniformed comment from David.

I would venture to guess that Lyle makes most of his profit selling Red Burgundy which will be the most negatively impacted if Germany finally gets it right.

I have bought wine from Lyle for well over 10 years and he has never steered me wrong. I think you can trust a guy with his track record and integrity not to mention his experience in Germany to tell it straight.

ITB posters bring a huge value to this Board and yes there is always the potential for them to shill but I think we are all experienced enough to make our own decision on the content as long as all professional ties are disclosed.

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The voice of sanity. I sell way more Red Burg/White Burg than German wine. It will never change. I love German wine and German wine culture. Anybody who knows me, knows that I am as passionate can be about my German wines and it will always be my first vinous love.

I have so much to say and share and won’t let the hoi poilloi here stop me with specious arguments like schilling. I will continue to share and if you don’t like my knowledge or think I’m schilling, then ignore me, block me, report me and send the secret police after me. Do whatever, but I will continue to share my impressions.

Thanks Robert.

There was definitely a tendency to be heavy-handed with the oak. My first run through a series of GG reds was a long time ago, but I came away thinking that there was way too much love for new wood on fruit that didn’t seem to handle it well. The best wines I tried were usually the ‘Estate QBA’ level stuff.

In the world of lower alcohol red wine geekdom that has buffetted regions like Jura, the Loire, and Ribeira Sacra , there is definitely a place near the head of the class for German pinots. I’ve downright enjoyed a number that I’ve had recently. Agree with Robert that we should abandon the polemic and open our minds.

I remember I was invited to German wine trade tasting once and was excited to try the Pinots. Given the cool climates I was expecting racy floral-tinged reds. Instead they were all woody and clunky. I was quite surprised and disappointed. Im glad to hear things are turning around.

Hopefully some of the Jura varietals can make it over there too.

Perhaps David Z and Lyle could be wine buddies for the bottle exchange? grouphug

No love for the Becker pinots? they were decent when I’ve tried them. But yeah they definitely lacked some fruit.

Perfect!

Fritz Becker is a friend but I find them heavy-handed and too muscular for me. Not shy on wood either.


What was last vintage you tasted as they have a lot of fruit for me?

They are close by and could do a personal handoff or maybe share the bottles together.

Charlie - Try Enderle & Moll or Fürst single vineyards.

Lyle,

It’s funny but your post very eloquently explains the rather Damascene conversion to German Pinot that I experienced last year. I thought that the Ziereisen and schloss lieser 2011s and the Keller 2012 pinots were excellent.

Dan

I’ve found the ‘top’ wines often overoaked and overpriced. I’m enjoying Julg’s midrange release now though, fairly priced relative to a BR.

Generally speaking, I assume that Lyle avoided a comprehensive list of top producers because he needed to avoid mentioning any of his. The 3 listed were just examples

Totally agree. Fortunately, that is changing.

I am still picking the splinters out of my mouth from a tasting of Ahr region Spätburgunders that I attended in 2003.

The few I have tried in more recent times have been better. I am just honestly not looking for another wine to follow. I buy enough as it is.

happy to read any informed opinion. Lyle’s take on German Pinot is quite interesting. Ich danke dir,
Herr Fass.