Which Riesling are you drinking?

I am surprised this thread doesn’t already exist. It’s past time to start one.

I made four big mistakes with this wine:

  1. I served it too cold.

  2. I didn’t decant.

  3. I tried drinking it as an aperitif.

  4. I’ve ignored it, and the rest of the White Capsules, because they aren’t labeled Grosses Gewachs.

The first three unforced errors made the first 60% of the bottle rather perplexing. It had all the components of a fine dry riesling, but it was aggressively tart - akin to sucking on a raw lemon - and just didn’t come together coherently. Once I solved the equation, I was smitten. Amazingly silken on the palate with thrilling concentration and density, but somehow light and unobtrusive as well. The acidity didn’t really soften, it just folded into the wine and gave it amazing energy and precision without the surplus of lemony tartness that defined the first half of the bottle. This was packed with stony, flinty minerals and salt. Its finish lingers. This was ultimately a world class wine, which is not something I was expecting. A most pleasant surprise. I have wine tucked away in every nook and cranny of my apartment, but I need to go back and get a few more of these. It’s remarkable how much concentration can be packed into a wine with an ABV of 11%

My photography stinks. This a 2017 Markus Molitor Urziger Wurtzgarten Auslese **

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No kidding, I logged on 15 minutes ago to start this thread. What are you, savant? :wink:

My motivation was to share my experience with a nice Austrian, 2021 Weingut Schneider Riesling Trocken, and I searched for a Riesling thread to no avail. Hard to believe.

So that’s a great beat to the punch, Scott!
I expect this thread to go long with contributions and deep with discussion.
Cheers, Bob

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Great note, @scottkieser, and great thread idea. Molitor’s wines were my introduction to dry riesling: about 15 months ago, I picked up a bottle of the white capsule 2016 Zeltinger Sonnenuhr Auslese ** based only on an educated guess and was smitten. The dense but elegant slate and bone-dry tropical fruits instantly sold me. “If this is what dry riesling is,” I said to myself, “give me all you’ve got and more.”

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Wait, you bought a bottle of Auslese and it was bone dry? :thinking:

Yup! The white capsules (like the one in the OP) are Molitor’s dry rieslings. The green capsule bottlings are off-dry, and the gold are sweet. The color coding of the capsules confused me at first.

Ive been interested in trying Molitor, are they as unique as people say?

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Personally I don’t find anything particularly special about them. They’re good and adored within Germany (at least from my experience tasting there), but I don’t get the hype.

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Similar journey, though my introduction came with a Dr. Loosen Grosses Gewachs. Try a dry wine from Steinmetz, if you can find one.

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Auslese that is dry? Need to try it. What is it like? Don’t think I’ve ever had a dry Auslese…

I often do this these days for very young bone dry Aussie rieslings and it does work a treat just bringing things into balance. Not always needed but agree some can be a bit awkward initially.

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If you’ve ever had a GG (Grosses Gewachs) Riesling it’s essentially a dry Auslese.

I stopped looking at the colour of caps or the Auslese-Spatlese-Kabinett-etc classification long ago. Too confusing and not 100% definitive.

Alcohol content is the key for me: 12º = dry; 10º = off-dry; 7,5º = sweet. This never fails.

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A Grosses Gewächs (GG), though, can be chaptalized.

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Willi vs JJ Memorial Day Eve 2024 Edition

Tough battle tonight. Both in a perfect place, IMHO. Willi fruitier, fuller, hint of leather, more luscious. JJ more interesting – sand, oyster shell, paint, unripe melon, (seemingly) a tad drier, crisp.

JJ maybe by a hair, although I’m waffling and might have to call it a draw. Could go either way depending on mood.

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Been drinking a lot of the BD Tupetz imports recently and they’ve all been excellent. Want to stock up on some Aussie stuff, but haven’t really had the funds for big wine buys. Polish Hill is now well over $50…

Clemens Busch has produced off-dry Mosel Rieslings with 12 or more percent alcohol.

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Had a glass of this yesterday at Molitor. It was exceptional. Full of acid, the wine danced all over my tongue going down.

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Note that the three-star 2021 Scharzhofberger has no Prädikat. It was chaptalized.

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What I really liked about the Molitor bottling that was my gateway dry riesling was the quiet yet intense purity it had. The acidity wasn’t bracing and it didn’t have the power or spiciness of some Clemens-Busch rieslings (to take one example), but I thought the balance and poise were terrific. I’m happy to recommend these. The two-star bottlings are serious rieslings but aren’t terribly pricey–I’ve seen them for around $40-$55–so you could give one a shot without feeling like you’re really taking a gamble.

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Ulli produced one in the 13s or higher! I once asked him to pour me some of the craziest wines in his cellar. And he pulled out a partly skin macerated, auslese level feinherb aged in barrel for several years with no sulpher! If there ever was a wine version of free jazz this wine was it!

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