I found the old thread
In a different thread I’d have just said I don’t care for autolytic styled Champagnes but for this thread I felt dogmatic pronouncements to be more appropriate
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By autolytic, do you mean you don’t like the heavier body and the yeastiness of those wines? (the dough or bread aromas from the extended sur lie aging?)
How did I miss a WK DP scrap and discussion on notes and champagne styles?!?!? I’m sure I’d have had little to add but much to say per usual!
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What I don’t like is what I perceive as a certain heaviness which renders the wine unenjoyable
I only used the term autolytic since I was struck by how wines I don’t care for were described That way in that thread
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Have barely glanced at the thread, but I’m sure I’m not alone in being unwilling to die on any hill for my wine opinions, but here are three about peripheral wines:
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Champagne and Rose are peripheral wines… irrelevant to a very large majority of wine drinkers who are not wine geeks.
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All Champagne is good. It is rarer than rare to open a bottle of Appellation Champagne that does not provide instant pleasure. The Appellation standards are really high.
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99% of all Roses are essentially interchangeable for all but Berserker kind of geeks. Give a typical random consumer three wines blind:
a) Tempier Rose
b) Whizzing Angel
c) Some random dry French IGP or Vin de France Rose
While Tempier or Whizzing might win, the typical consumer won’t see much difference or care which one they drink.
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I’d go a touch further that most grocery/total wine buyers seem to enjoy a bit of RS in their Rose
Consuming alcohol (i.e. wine, spirits, beer, etc.) is always a negative to one’s physiological health.
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Here is an unpopular truth - the last glass from a red burgundy bottle containing some of the dregs is often the freshest tasting and best glass from the bottle.
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Additionally, while many who see Ch. Simone Rose think it’s not really a Rose, they are nevertheless suspicious of this ‘red wine’s’ cough drop colour and avoid it, to their loss.
A few months ago someone handed me a blinded champagne and told me I had to try it
I hated it
I was told , how can you hate it? it tastes just like Krug and it’s only 1/3 the price!
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Egly Ouriet was first recommended to me about 25 years ago so I’ve given them plenty of chances over the years and never had one I liked
Rodez falls in the same category as does Bollinger RD
So it might just be the long lees aging I dislike
Welp. I’m going to get to test this now
You dislike a lot of my wife’s absolute favorites. She’s a Rodez fanatic!
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I’m curious if you like Chartogne-Taillet? You’ve identified three wineries that generally make oak vinified oxidative or quasi-oxidative champagnes with long lees aging. I would say EO is probably the lowest dosed, least oxidative of the two, but offers some wines like VP with long lees aging.
I only recently found out that rodez worked at Krug but it made perfect sense once I heard it
The last batch I tried I disliked but they were all 2018s ao that’s not a fair judgement
My recollection from some years ago was that I didn’t feel strongly one way or the other but it’s been a while since I had any other than the aforementioned 2018s
You had best avoid Lacourte Godbillon. Winemaker worked at Rodez!
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Those that profess, “I only drink wine with food…” don’t really like wine that much and prefer to virtue signal to cover that up.
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I do only drink wine with food. Food is always reasonably nearby! 
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This is an odd one. What is the supposed ‘virtue’ they are signaling?
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