I already buy a fair amount of Jouan (love the style), and just loaded up on some more 2017s. Having been collecting less time than many on here, I end up with some disconnect between consumption and purchases. Namely that (for now at least) a I end up not consuming much from some producers I buy heavily because I want to lay them down.
Howard’s and many others’ stories similar to his always serve as a nice reminder to purchase the producers you love in quantity. Down the road, I’m hoping that mentality will be nicely rewarded.
It’s interesting - I think from an overall winemaking comparison, Jouan and Truchot are quite similar ; good producers that make pleasant, pretty but rustic wines. I buy Jouan, but my hit rate on them is not what I’d hope. And I’m generally not a huge fan of rusticity in my Burgundy. For the price, it’s a good value - though that is changing (as it is with all red Burgundy).
As to what will happen in thirty years - I don’t think Jouan will see the same sort of appreciation that Truchot did, simply because the winemaking in general is much better these days. There are a lot more options so that a Domaine that disappears won’t expect such price escalation. Or, that’s my view at least. I just buy what I like
I like the Boudriotte and the Morgeot, but I also like the villages CM and have had a couple of bottles of 2012 Pernand-Vergelesses Les Belles Filles that was really seductive. I have only had one bottle of the Clos St. Jean (a 2014) but I liked it a lot also (have 2019s of this but have not opened them yet).
The nice things about the PV and the villages CM is that I can drink them younger and keep my hands off the premier crus while they age - well, at least that is the plan.
Thanks for the comments @Greg_K. I buy everything with the intention of drinking them, so price appreciation is not really a goal for me. Price appreciation is only a concern to the extent it makes wines I enjoy unaffordable to me.
Oh, I know - it was more just a comment in terms of likelihood of such appreciation, not in terms of hoping to hit the next Truchot like score. I’m sure my Fourrier would be worth more if he stopped making wine, but I’d rather he kept making wine
My list below represents since the beginning of 2007, so basically my entire time drinking decent wine. This list (obviously) is a commentary on my past preferences far more than it is on my current preferences.
My Top 10, from most to least:
Dirty and Rowdy
Ask me in another decade and I’d expect five of those ten, at most, to still be on my list.
Number 1 every year is Merry Edwards Sauv Blanc. I buy two to three cases a year and it’s my house white. I just finished a leftover half bottle with a tuna hoagie. Consistently 10% of wine consumed from my cellar. After that it’s Rivers Marie. What’s interesting is i dont track bottles friends bring. If i did i know Peter Michael and Aubert would be high because a friend opens one of their Chardonnays every Friday night for us.
For fun, I did another sort, summarizing by producer but sorting by value of consumed bottles rather than by number of consumed bottles. Top 10 consumed producers over the same 5-year span, by total value:
Domaine Jean-Louis Chave
Domaine Robert Chevillon
Sine Qua Non
Château Lafite Rothschild
Paul Jaboulet Aîné
So two producers that made both lists, and one (Lafite) which made the latter list on the basis of only one bottle (my daughter’s birth-year vintage, opened at her wedding dinner).
Arcadian for sure (for starters, I could stop drinking them now and they’d remain on the list by virtue of how much I’ve had up to this point; as it is, however, I’m still sitting on about 9 cases, which should be enough to keep them on my list 'till the day I die)
Rhys (same story as Arcadian, but I’ve pulled-back on my purchases almost entirely at this point)
Guiberteau (will climb)
Tablas Creek (just re-joined their wine club, so they’ll climb, at least for as long as we stay in their club)
Donnhoff (this one is a maybe).
All others reflect past flirtations from which I’ve moved-on for one reason or another.
The following list is from the CT report, which covers wines consumed from my own cellar since 2005. It is somewhat off because I have been less diligent recently. Add SQN as probably in the top 10 (my guess is #8) and then if you want to include the Hospices Auction Group wines as a single producer, that would also go in the top ten. Cayuse and Quilceda Crack probably also nose out DuMol and Copain.