Vitamins or supplements to take before wine / dinner party to help from not feeling so great the next day?

Oh god lol, are you sweating a liter per hour when you are drinking wine? I feel sorry for the people who have to sit next to you! :joy:

Because that’s basically the only reason to drink like an athlete. They are sweating at a pace that exceeds any other method of fluid loss (apart from something like bleeding profusely).

That is just utter bull. A human excretes water through kidneys → urine in a cycle that normally lasts for about 9 hours. Unless you have something like an oedema (where fluid gets trapped inside a part of your body which starts to swell), you really can’t change the amount of water that’s circulating in your body. That is a number that is dictated by your physical size. If you start drinking water excessively, your body only responds to this by mild diuresis, removing the extra water. You can’t pre-hydrate, you can’t store water in your body for 2 weeks by drinking extra water, you are not a friggin’ camel for crying out loud!

The standard procedure for an athlete to prepare for a sports event in a hot weather is to drink enough water to remain fully hydrated for about 2-3 hours prior to the event. Drinking slowly more than that will cause that mild diuresis, which will only cause a negative result, as it decreases water retention, and drinking fast more than that can cause water poisoning, ie. overhydration or electrolyte imbalance. That is a serious condition that can be life-threatening and can take more than 24 hours to recover from.

So if athletes want to drink enough water for 2 weeks before going to Australia, they’re free to do that. Nothing bad in staying properly hydrated, too few people do that. However, any positive effect is just placebo. What you’re describing is just physiologically impossible.

Btw, I tried to google for any scientific articles or anything at all on what you suggested regarding sports pre-hydration. All the articles say that you should drink enough water 2-4 hours before the event. Not 2 weeks. Could you please give me anything more credible than just “dude, bro told me that, bro”?

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Marathon Runners: Beware Of Drinking Too Much Water | ScienceDaily.

do we have sources for Americans being under hydrated?

Adult Dehydration - StatPearls - NCBI Bookshelf.

I like that this thread has gone from “you’re drinking a lot of alcohol, better drink more water” to “you’re drinking a lot of water, time to cut back.”

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I drink two glasses of warm water with lemon juice in the morning. It seems to help.

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I would love to read scientific articles on this as well.
I don’re care what people do or drink
 i’m coming from it as my kid’s soccer team advises them that in hot weather days it’s advisable to pre-hydrate throughout the week before the match on the weekend

if that’s total BS
 i can stop pumping them with water/body armor starting the tuesday!

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@Mark_Y start here

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Hey Tom, is there a link? :slight_smile:

It’s a zen joke

Adult dehydration link

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How does the body know which water molecules are assigned for pre-hydration and which are for current keeping me alive stuff?

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As I mentioned above the remedy from hangover in the USSR was to drink little amount of alcohol in the morning (preferably of the same type you drank the night before). In Russian it’s called “apakhmelitsya” (ĐŸĐżĐŸŃ…ĐŒĐ”Đ»ĐžŃ‚ŃŒŃŃ). It sounds really weird and I don’t know how it works, but it does. I tested it myself during really bad hangovers. It makes symptoms to go away. I just found that in English this method called the hair of the dog.
Another “Russian” remedy is in the morning to drink pickle or cabbage brine. Apparently it helps to retain water in the body and replenish electrolytes.

This will alleviate the symptoms temporarily (probably by ethanol metabolism taking over methanol metabolism), but it can also just delay the symptoms instead of truly working as a remedy.

Worse yet, every time you do this, you are training your brain to alleviate nausea or other similar conditions with alcohol. In other words, a very effective way to condition oneself toward alcoholism. I really cannot recommend this method.

(And yes, the phenomenon is known in probably every culture in the world. We call an alcoholic drink consumed on a hangover morning a “repair kit” or “smoothener”.)

Yes, it helps with dehydration and replenishes electrolytes. This is basically the same thing I recommended earlier, ie. drinking water with some salt. Your method just adds some pickle or cabbage taste - something I wouldn’t even think of on the morning after.

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Check your urine to determine hydration. Clear or very pale yellow is ideal. Otherwise you are dehydrated to some extent.

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All I will say is one night I think we killed 7 bottles of wine between Otto and I, and I bet Otto felt better the next morning than I did, so I would listen to him over some random anecdotes.

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Makes sense. In Russia people often eat pickles when drinking vodka. So in the morning they have jars with pickle brine. Feeling thirsty someone drunk the brine and discovered that it helps with hangover symptoms. That’s how it probably started. It’s my theory :slight_smile: People would think you are out of your mind if you recommended them drinking salt water.

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A while back when I did the Transsibirskaja railroad, I learned that Russians also never mix vodka with anything. Vodka, then orange juice, then a pickle.

It didn’t work out for my Scandinavian body when I got out of rhytm and did vodka, vodka, and a pickle.

I was woken up by a bunch of Russians telling me it’s my stop. Worst hangover, and one of the best memories, of my life.

Vodka was the main alcoholic drink followed by cheap fortified wine, not even sure what it was made from. People drank to the point becoming unconscious. Ate pickles, herring, bread, sprats, lard. Hangover was brutal.

Ask no questions, hear no lies


Otto just gave us a random anecdote.

Plus, isn’t drinking over three bottles of wine also conditioning your brain to become alcohol resistant and expect more alcohol and therefore lead to alcoholism? :wine_glass: