Vitamins or supplements to take before wine / dinner party to help from not feeling so great the next day?

This is a very personal solution, but it works for me. I am a very light sleeper - I wake up twice on a good night, and more when I’ve had a lot to drink. So if I’ve had a lot to drink, I drink three large glasses of water before I go to sleep, then I put a gallon water bottle next to my bed, and every time I wake up I drink another glass. By the time the morning comes around I generally feel fine, maybe a little tired. But I haven’t had a bad hangover in 10 years, meanwhile my friends complain about theirs getting worse with age.

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would u not have to get up to go pee like every 2 hours at night? :smiley:

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can’t get a hangover if you never go to sleep.

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Another +1, I typically have alcohol flush reaction and Zbiotics cuts it by quite a bit. And in the morning I’ll still feel tired but without the other hangover symptoms. It doesn’t do much for my wife, but she doesn’t get alcohol flush reaction.

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Oh for sure! But I’m waking up anyway! And honestly it’s way less than you’d think - a good indication to me that I’m staving off dehydration

I try to bring a liter or 2 of this with me and always finish it all.

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Typically if you are thirsty, you already are dehydrated. The better solution is to drink 2-3 quarts of water daily for a few days before a big event and the day of before you start drinking wine. This ensures that you are well hydrated. No need to drink more water during the event or wake up every 2 hours to drink more water, which is inconvenient, if not also already too late.

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This isn’t the case in my experience. In general I’m not dehydrated as a person. And drinking more water during an event and after it does materially improve my hangover outcomes. Also it’s not that I feel thirsty per se, it’s that I make myself drink water.

No.

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So if you stop drinking water the day of the event, will you then be dehydrated a couple days later?

No, that’s the whole point. It doesn’t happen that fast either way. But I said you drink the day of the event, but before the event, not just pounding back glasses of water at dinner.

The problem is most people are perpetually dehydrated and pounding back water at dinner with a bunch of wine doesn’t do as much as they think it does towards hydration and helping with the hangover symptoms.

But according to my paramedic friend, the number one hangover cure is an IV the next morning. You just have to get him to come with you on trips and dose everybody up each morning. :grin:

I had an IV the midday after my bachelor party in New Orleans, and it’s pretty incredible, you feel 80% better in like 15 minutes.

There are lots of IV places around these days. It’ll cost you $100-150 or something, but if it were bad or important enough, it would get you serious fast results.

[Much more than hangovers, those are something to consider for some severe flu / food poisoning type of illness and you have an important game, presentation, travel etc. right away.]

Fixing mild dehydration takes something from 30 minutes to 2 hours. If you get fully hydrated for a few days beforehand and do nothing after that, you’ll be mildly dehydrated by the time of tasting, not well hydrated.

Yes, many people are perpetually mildly dehydrated, but that is something one can fix by drinking a liter of water over a small period of time and waiting for a little bit.

Anyways, when you are drinking water while drinking alcohol, you are effectively diluting the alcohol mixture in your body. Your body absorbs alcohol at a more or less constant rate from a liquid up until 20% ABV - an alcoholic beverage any stronger than that doesn’t get absorbed so effectively, so a a set amount of alcohol from a 40% ABV spirit doesn’t get absorbed twice as fast as the same amount from 20% Port, but this amount gets absorbed twice as fast from Port than from a 10% Kabinett.

Since only about 20% of the consumed alcohol gets absorbed in your stomach (slowly) and about 80% in your small intestine (at a much faster rate), it is more effective to dilute the stuff in your stomach, as your stomach is so effective at regulating the pace at which it passes anything forward into your small intestine to get absorbed. The more you eat anything or drink water (or anything other non-alcoholic), the more you are diluting the alcoholic admixture in your tummy, that is mainly just being kept there, not really being absorbed anywhere. This dilution means that your body is able to absorb the alcohol you’ve consumed at a much slower rate, which in turn regulates not only the BAC, but also the levels of acetaldehyde and any other unwanted alcohol metabolites in your body. To put this simply: if you drink a set amount of alcohol in the form of 21% Port wine, both your BAC and resulting alcohol metabolites are going to spike up considerably faster and higher than if you drank the same amount of alcohol in the form of 4% beer instead. By drinking water between sips of wine you are basically diluting the wine - only after you have consumed it.

And indeed, dehydration is one of the biggest culprits in hangovers - but that is because alcohol is a diuretic, meaning that it makes your body remove water faster than it normally would. The more alcohol you have drunk (and for a longer period of time), the more it has had time to remove water from your body. By drinking water while you drink alcohol, you are decreasing your level of dehydration. However, no matter what you do (apart from sleeping with an IV drip), you are going to end up with some dehydration. Naturally an IV drip makes you magically feel better, because it immediately fixes your dehydration. However, that exact same effect can be achieved by just drinking a few glasses of water, a tiny bit of table salt and waiting for a little bit for the water to get absorbed in your body. It’s not going to be as fast as getting hydrated through an IV drip, but it is considerably cheaper.

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When my father was an aviator the flight surgeon would administer oxygen the morning after…

Tell that to the professional tennis players. I learned from them that if you go down to Australia and play in the 100 degree heat, you better have pre-hydrated for 2 weeks before the event or you’re going to be hurting out there. I take the same tack with my wine events.

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Milk thistle is a game changer.

Before bed; indica, obv. :roll_eyes:

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Dilute solution of H2O

You mean more wine?

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That’s still an 85% H20 concentrate. I think Richard must be referring to dihydrogen monoxide diluted down to 5-10%, something like Everclear.

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