TNs: 18 top quality pinot noirs from NZ, US and Burgundy with Peter

Peter Rosback of cult producer Sineann wines in Oregon (http://www.sineann.com/) was in Wellington having finished vintage for his Central Otago and Marlborough wines early. He was keen to try some quality NZ pinot noirs, particularly older ones, at a lunch we organised. Peter generously brought along three of his US and one of his Central Otago pinot noirs for us to try.

We were interested in comparing NZ and US pinot noirs and Burgundies side-by-side and blind. Thierry and I devised a tasting schedule of flights of three (typically but not exclusively one of each of the three types) from the wines attendees brought. We chose Burgundies we thought might compare well with New World pinots. Wines largely popped and poured although all got good air over a long lunch.

The excellent Tinakori Bistro (http://tinakoribistro.co.nz/) provided a great venue and a delicious lunch to accompany …

Flight 1

2009 Mt. Difficulty Pinot Noir Long Gully
Colour deep red. A little flinty sulphur on the nose. A lifted, attractive nose of spice, black cherries and black berries that took a little time to open in the glass. Clearly New World on bouquet. Some comments were about volatile elements of the aromatics. A nice, silky smooth entry to the palate. A big, relatively primary wine, resting more on its fruit than its structure. Oak and fine grained tannins not yet seamlessly integrated, a little hard on the back palate. Flavours tending spicy, black cherry. Excellent acids with good intensity. Tasters suggested this as Oregon but this is classic, very good Central Otago pinot noir. A baby that really needs at least 6-8 years, in my view the best of the three SVs produced by Mt Difficulty in 2009. Two evenings later drinking even more beautifully.

2009 Escarpment Pinot Noir Kiwa
Colour deep red good colour. A perfumed, spicy nose of red fruit and warm earth, clearly the most aromatic of the flight. On palate, zingy sour cherry flavours with suggestions of game meats and dried herbs. Fully ripe but not overripe. Good structure and real concentration. Suave, fine grained tannins. Lovely savoury long finish. Tasters had this as French (specifically Vosne), suggesting the presence of whole cluster (which I believe is correct). For me, the wine of the flight. Kiwa is a Martinborough SV wine made from 30+ year old vines, perhaps the most Burgundian NZ pinot noir.

2008 Beaux Frères Pinot Noir Beaux Frères Vineyard
Colour lighter red than the other two. Also, dumber nose with aromas of dark berries and earth. An almost sweet entry to the palate, earthy, black fruited and liquorice in the mouth. Clearly New World, very clean and well made, with good integration between the fruit and spicy oak. Tasters picked this as a NZ wine. Good fruit structure and depth, with good length (finishing on a lovely cherry note). To me, a little uninteresting at this stage. On the reveal, Peter said this was very young and could be expected to develop considerably with time.

Flight 2

2012 Sineann Pinot Noir Pisa Terrace
Colour deep red. Nose more red fruited than black, with some earth and spice. On palate, gorgeous, a big structure, relatively extracted. Sweet fruit, more plum than cherry, finishes on toasty oak. Cultured tannins, good mid palate fruit weight and length. Clear Central Otago signature most tasters picked. On the reveal, Peter mentioned the US pricing, which makes this wine an incredible bargain, due to NZ pinot noir’s lower profile in the US. A half to a third of the price you would pay for this region and quality in NZ.

2009 Domaine Fourrier Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Combes aux Moines Vieille Vigne
Colour less deep ruby than the other two. Attractive aromatics largely red fruited - red cherries, raspberries and red currants - with earth and savoury elements. Some tasters suggested some brett, while others saw this as a touch of animale or barnyard. On the palate, svelte and clearly Burgundy with lovely bright acids, tasting more evolved than expected for a 2009. Not very concentrated but sufficient mid palate fruit weight. Flavour spectrum red fruited with underbrush and dried herbs, attractively savoury. On palate, some suggested a little brett, while others again just saw this as interesting animale. Refined tannins and oak well integrated. Good length. A classy Burgundy.

2012 Sineann Pinot Noir Reserve Resonance Vineyard
Deep ruby colour. An aromatic black fruited bouquet, showing some spicy, vanilla oak. On the palate, this a big, young wine, but with a good degree of balance. Very smooth but heavy texture, a lot of ripe fruit here. The flavours are dark cherries, dark plums and prunes, showing the oak treatment at present. The tannins are very smooth and fine grained. Not high in acids. Once revealed, Peter said that this Willamette Valley pinot is a baby, that needs at least 10 years cellar time.

Flight 3 … French and US Drouhins to compare with a Kiwi classic …

2010 Joseph Drouhin Beaune 1er Cru Clos des Mouches Rouge
Colour lighter ruby fairly deep. Lovely, expressive spicy nose of red fruit and complex aromas, as I recently described (2010 Joseph Drouhin Beaune 1er Cru Clos des Mouches Rouge - WINE TALK - WineBerserkers). Chris from Ata Rangi pointed out the touch of flinty reduction on the nose, I had not noticed previously. On palate, beautiful fruit with flavours in the red berry spectrum, earth and spice, multifaceted. This poised wine is all class with great structure, acid balance and elegance. It could be perceived as New World, but it is clearly classic Burgundy, with one taster even (correctly) suggesting Cote de Beaune. It paired beautifully with my venison main course. Drinking beautifully now but really should be cellared at least medium term.

2011 Domaine Drouhin Oregon Pinot Noir
Colour deep ruby. Nose red fruited but appearing a little candied and confected. Not very expressive with an unusual iodine element. Sweet red fruit on the palate, flavours of red and black currants. Good acidity and well balanced, seemingly lightly extracted. with a cleanness of palate, suggesting stones and minerals, improved by the food. A little hard on the back palate. The alcohol seemed higher than the 13.9% alc on the label. For me the Dundee Hills Willamette Valley pinot noir was overshadowed by the French Drouhin.

2010 Ata Rangi Pinot Noir
Colour deep ruby. An expressive, spicy nose of warm earth, black cherry, dark rose petal, with savoury elements. On palate, savoury, earthy, spicy black berried flavours, with real elegance. Good mid palate weight, muscular and powerful with real structure. Excellent precision, focus and acids, with good back palate intensity. Everyone has this as a top quality Kiwi pinot noir. Long, finishes on attractive minerality. Signature Martinborough pinot noir from an excellent producer and vintage. Can be drunk now but I’m cellaring 5-10 years.

Flight 4 … a very even flight …

2011 Sineann Pinot Noir Reserve Resonance Vineyard
Deep red colour. An intriguing, perfumed and spicy nose packed full of black fruit, figs and liquorice. On palate, there is some sweetness suggested. This is a profound and seriously structured pinot noir with real power, mid palate depth and length. The flavours are black fruits - almost crème de cassis - and game meats. Lovely texture. Tasters suggest Dry River, but most are saying Oregon. On the reveal it is Peter’s young Willamette Valley pinot noir, with seemingly plenty of stuffing for many years in the cellar.

2008 Kusuda Pinot Noir
Colour a little lighter than the other two. An earthy, dark fruited nose showing aromas dark plums and blackcurrants. On palate, a succulent, earthy wine showing those black fruit flavours with excellent structure and power. Some tasters see the structure and suggest this may be Burgundy, however this is quite modernist in approach. Some stems add complexity to the flavour profile. Rich, but all in balance and quite refined. Long. An excellent Martinborough wine from a very good vintage. Drinking well now but should cellar medium term.

2009 Bell Hill Pinot Noir
Deep ruby colour. A gorgeous, lifted, high toned bouquet of mainly red berries, with spices and dark flowers. On palate this is an individual, intriguing pinot noir. It has lovely, smooth texture and big structure, explosive power (Thierry sees this as reminiscent of carbonic maceration winemaking) and good length. On the reveal of this cult Canterbury, NZ label, there was a debate about whether this was at its best now or needed another five years or so, with me in the latter camp. Vines planted in 1997, situated at a 1920s limestone quarry, with the winemaking known to be traditional.

Flight 5, three classy wines …

2007 Felton Road Pinot Noir Block 5
Colour deep red with a dark core. An aromatic bouquet of largely black berry fruit - black cherries and blackberries - with high toned dark florals and some Asian spices, quite brooding. After a sweet entry on palate, this is clearly very serious, quality New World pinot noir. The fruit is very ripe (but not overripe) with lovely sappiness, but with gorgeous acidity. There is great density, depth and structure present, with detailed dark fruit flavours, spice, and minerality present. There is spicy oak present (about 30% new), excellent dusty tannins counterbalancing the acids. A long, lingering finish. Peter said in a very even lineup, perhaps this was his WoTN (we can assume his modesty about his own wines). Drinking even better three nights later, still quite a tight, brooding wine, beginning to uncoil, years ahead of it. Give it at least another three years. Stephen Tanzer gave this wine 94 points, it would be hard to go lower.

2008 Sineann Pinot Noir Reserve Resonance Vineyard
Deep red. Aromas again in the dark fruit spectrum - dark plums and cherries - and liquorice, also some dark flowers, a very clean and correct nose. On palate, the liquorice flavours hit first, then the core of palate staining mainly dark berry fruits, soil and spices. Powerful with big structure and good length, beginning to mellow. Beautiful, silky texture. Not much acidity. A beautiful, long cherry oak finish. For at least medium term cellaring. On the reveal, a wine of which Peter should be very proud, I think.

2006 Ata Rangi Pinot Noir
Colour again deep ruby. A lovely spicy bouquet showing the full peacocks tail. Some sulphides add complexity but are not off-putting. On palate, another big structured pinot noir with all of the components you look for in New World pinot noir. A beautiful, detailed, multi-faceted flavour profile of red and dark fruits, earth and spices, finishing long and savoury. Nicely resolved tannins, good acids, years ahead of it. Once revealed, no surprise here, perhaps the best Ata Rangi vintage of the noughties …

Flight 6, some older wines to finish …

2003 Rippon Pinot Noir
Colour deep ruby. Pretty aromatics, black fruited - blackberries and dark cherries and plums - and dark florals (violets?). Also some warm earth and underbrush. On palate, very impressive, nice fruit weight and power. Tasted fairly primary (2003 was a surprise), flavours suggesting good use of whole cluster. Subtle oak treatment. Really cultured tannins, well integrated. Sweet, persistent black fruit flavours, with a pleasing vegemite character. Good acid balance. This wine still has some way to go, but drinking well now. This was really impressive. It made me think I should look again at Rippon pinot noirs.

2003 Domaine Fourrier Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Combes aux Moines Vieille Vigne
Deep red colour. A lovely, slightly exotic Gevrey nose of spicy red fruits - red cherry and cranberry - and some warm earth. However, some cardboard-like aroma suggesting slight cork taint. On palate, good ripe fruit, slightly receding or fading due to the TCA. Flavours in the red berry spectrum - red cherries, raspberries and red currants - with a suggestion of brushwood. Below medium weight on mid palate (surprising for the vintage), soft tannins, with oak present but integrated. The finish clipped a little short due to the TCA. A bit disappointing for this esteemed label. The TCA worsened over the next two evenings, although still drinkable. Unfair to judge this wine on this bottle.

1997 Dry River Pinot Noir
Again deep, relatively primary colour. Wow, this is different on bouquet (is it really pinot noir?). Interesting aromas of tapenade or black olive, bacon fat and margarine. On palate some age present. Some tasters had this as their preferred wine of the flight. Others, like me, found it a bit jammy and overripe. Perhaps fading a little on palate, with pruney, margarine-type flavours. But if you get past this there is a dark core of dense berry fruit. An interesting wine lacking pinot noir typicity, tasters familiar with the house had it as Dry River. Overall I thought this wine a little past its best, lacking a bit of structure due to its age. However, 1997 was a major surprise. (Peter said he would have thought this wine was about four years old). 1997 was apparently a lighter, lesser vintage in Martinborough, so for this wine to survive in this form 17 years is some achievement!

… and to finish a special wine from Thierry (thanks very much) …

1967 Domaine des Baumard Quarts de Chaume
Colour deep lemon. Oxidation on the nose shows the age, but the bouquet is in good shape: aromas of pineapple, honey, dried fruits, smoke with an attractive mushroom component. Better on palate, glorious in fact! The oxidative element is here, showing age, but great fruit and bright acidity. Honeyed, glycerol flavours, old apples and a hay or straw element. Beautiful Chenin Blanc. Probably drinkable for another 30 years if the cork holds (this one recorked three years ago at the winery).

Thanks to all attendees, particularly Peter, for their excellent contributions …

Nice going guys! Thanks for entertaining Peter too.

Great tasting and notes Howard

Interesting stuff! tks.

Thanks for the notes. So often when I read these types of comparisons, I figure the author reached a conclusion first and then set up a tasting to prove the conclusion. By contrast, this seemed like it was set up for you to do an honest learning experience.

Howard - thanks for arranging this lunch with Peter and for posting these notes. It was really good to taste with Peter and get a glimpse of some of his knowledge and insights on Pinot Noir.

I took the remnants of a couple of the wines home to try the next day. By the following evening the 2012 Resonance Reserve was starting to open up and it was clear that this will need 5 to 10 years to show its potential.

I was impressed with the 2006 Ata Rangi the next day as well. No sign of tiring - I agree it has a long way to go. This wine and the 2003 Rippon suggest that New Zealand Pinot Noir can age gracefully.

Nice going guys. It looks like the New World more than held up against the Burgundies. Cheers Mike

Hi Howard,

Interesting tasting with a diverse set of wines. Thanks for the notes. What for you were the biggest surprises of this tasting?

Cheers Brodie

Thanks for organising this Howard, and also to Peter & Thierry for sharing wines that I would not usually get a chance to try.
It was a great opportunity to think about the wine in the glass rather than the label or one’s expectations. My impressions:

  • It was a shame that none of the Bgdies really engaged me - partly because the bottles were not “correct” but perhaps also highlighting the difficulty for young old world wines to make a real impression in an 18-wine line up (for me). Certainly, the Bgdies were noticeably different, especially on the nose.
  • Peter’s “$24” wine is fantastic value and I wish good PN at that price point were readily available here!
  • The three countries each have some very high quality and distinctive fruit
  • I am in the minority in preferring non-Otago NZ PNs, with Martinborough remaining at the top. My favourite probably the Kiwa (sour cherry finish and structure) followed by the Bell Hill, Ata Rangi and Kusuda.
  • The good NZ wines age well, e.g. the '06 AR had clearly started to develop extra complexity cf the '10, the '03 Rippon was beautifully mature, and even the DR '97 (under cork) had good life. The DR also had definite DR character with that “Syrah” note of olive/bacon, and interestingly I saw lesser hints of that in the Rippon also.

Rauno, great comments. I’m with you on the high quality of the Martinborough wines. I preferred the Kiwa to the very good Long Gully as the wine of the first flight and thought both Ata Rangis and the Kusuda excellent. Perhaps we differ on the Block 5, that I thought was outstanding?

Interesting comment also about the Burgundies. The next evening Peter and I shared a 2007 Faiveley Cazetiers, that was excellent and would have been an interesting comparison.

Don, you’re welcome. I look forward to organising something similar for you, when you next come out.

Howard, thanks, that’s a nice comment, we do try to do this.

Brodie, interesting question, what surprised us …? Others will have other comments, no doubt.

For me, the main thing that surprised was how even the wines were.

I would normally pick a WOTN (or afternoon, here), but couldn’t, I could give it to any of half a dozen, or all of those wines jointly, which would be silly. And no genuinely bad wines, or wines not to my taste, which was also a surprise.

Perhaps for the NZ wines that should not have been a surprise as we had, between us, collected a set of some of NZ’s best pinot noirs, generally from very good vintages. We were tasting about the best NZ has to offer …

After a bad first flight at picking, the countries of most wines were picked correctly by attendees, so origin was not usually a surprise.

I was not surprised at how good Peter’s wines were, even though I had not tasted them before, because of all the favourable comments I have heard from Oregon pinot noir followers.

The wines that surprised me were:

(1) Bell Hill. I didn’t know what to expect, as these wines are rare even here. It was an explosive, idiosyncratic pinot, in an unexpected but good way.

(2) Rippon. After a couple of cork problems years ago, they had dropped off my radar. This non-reserve wine reminded me of their quality and ageability, which should not be a surprise as they have some of the oldest vines in NZ.

(3) Dry River, with its unique taste profile, I have never tasted in another older pinot noir or Burgundy. Not to say it was bad, I liked it, just that it was (to me) so unusual.

What do other attendees think?

Cheers, Howard

“Some tasters suggested some brett, while others saw this as a touch of animale or barnyard.”

So, what’s the difference? Don’t you think the latter is caused by the former?

Thanks Howard for the detailed notes. Great to taste 4 wines from Peter and to hear his views on wines from Oregon and Central Otago.

I followed 3 wines over the next two nights.

2009 Escarpment Pinot Noir Kiwa
Great bouquet of red berries, lifted florals and subtle earthy, savoury and oak framing. On palate this combines expressive fruit sweetness and serious structure, supple tannins and a long finish. This is elegant and structured. On the second night, the wine has lost nothing of its charm and elegance.

2008 Kusuda Pinot Noir
Only 10% whole bunch here but it clearly brings great complexity and nuances. It has a floral element (violets), ripe and delicate spices (whole bunch character and careful oak). On palate this is superb: crystalline clarity and focus and with supple tannins and great savoury character. Very long, focused and serious. I see this ageing for a very long time. This was one of my top wines. On the second day, it was even better and on the third was slowly developing some savouriness without losing focus. One of my wines of the day in a very consistent line up. Only 3200 bottles made. If you see it, buy it. (KUSUDA WINES - Martinborough, New Zealand)

2003 Rippon Pinot Noir
I have cellared Rippon for a while and it is one of the NZ pinots that clearly gains in complexity rather than just becoming older. I am pretty sure they had no single vineyards at the time (unfortunately, the website does not keep information on past vintages). Elegant bouquet of dark cherries, plums, warm earth and subtle spices. This is still primary and shows the restrained focus and layering of the best wines from Rippon. Good concentration of fruit and fully integrated acidity and tannins. This has focus and length. Very far from falling over. Close to its peak but it will stay there for a very long time.

1967 Domaine des Baumard Quarts de Chaume
It would have benefited from some decanting as the wine initially came out with the prototypical mushroomy and earthy character of old chenin blanc. However, I poured the wine from the rather small glass we had into a Burgundy glass. The transformation was immediate. The musty character receded and mature yellow fruit and linden infusion came to the fore. In the mouth this shows resolved fruit sweetness into something more elegant and satisfying and the acidity focuses all the delicate layering of the wine. Very far from fallen over. I would not worry about opening this in a hurry but if you do, this will be a treat. Chose your glass carefully and decant.

Maureen Nelson said:

“Some tasters suggested some brett, while others saw this as a touch of animale or barnyard.”

So, what’s the difference? Don’t you think the latter is caused by the former?

Maureen, maybe no difference.

This is a (friendly) debate I have and see often at wine tastings. There is an aroma in a wine but not brett like an outhouse or a dead mouse. One group (often winemakers, who are sensitive to brett) says of the aroma “that’s brett”. Another group (often non-ITBs, often including me) says “I smell that aroma, I think it is pleasant funk, complexity [etc], and not brett” or “I smell that and it may be mild brett but it is not a fault, it enhances the bouquet, adding savoury complexity [or similar]”. This is a common discussion in wine tastings of Old World wines, particularly syrah but often Burgundy.

That was the type of discussion we had on the day I summarised in the words you quote … whether it was brett or not, because it was clearly not heavy brett, was dependent on the nose and sensitivity of the individual …

Maureen, do you never have these debates or discussions at tastings?

(There is a parallel issue I also see in relation to VA where there is something I jokingly refer to as “winemaker’s VA” when winemakers suggest VA where I do not detect or recognise it).

Best, Howard

No, i don’t like to bring up sensitive, contentious issues at dinner parties.

We restrict conversation topics to religion and politics.

Nice. [cheers.gif]

I sell Peter’s wines here in Oregon. I remember tasting the Pisa Terrace 2012 with another wine steward and we looked at each other and said Wow. This was one of the best values we had come across for Pinot Noir. I would also say that Ata Rangi is one of my favorite NZ producers. I love the earthy and savory characters. I look forward to tasting Peter’s 2013 when it arrives this summer. I also got to meet Roberta from Ellero who sells some of their grapes to Peter.

Good follow up notes Thierry - interesting that both Kusuda and Kiwa remained compelling.

Brodie - what surprised me? Actually, the most surprising thing was how even the wines were. There was no one wine that smashed all others for me, and it would be a tough job ranking my top 6 let alone all 18. These were mostly very good quality, Flights 4 and 5 perhaps the most consistent.

As for the spoilages discussion, I don’t particularly over-analyse what the chemical problems with a wine are. I’m usually reasonably sensitive to TCA (though struggled to id it in the 03 Fourrier, heck, wine number 17, excluding the Champagne). Mostly I care about whether there is a scent or flavour in the wine that I dislike or that over-powers the others in the wine. I found that with the Mt Diff Long Gully - while others didn’t pick any particular fault; enjoyed the hint of band-aid on the nose of the 09 Fourrier and found no “distracting” flavours in the mouth; experienced no concern about alcohol in the Domaine Drouhin; felt too much liquorice in the 08 Reserve. Which really just highlights that tasting is intensely personal and people will dislike / like things even at a very micro level.

What a treat! Thanks to Howard for organizing. And, thanks to the Tinakori Bistro for allowing us to use their facility. The food was fantastic!

Hard to add to the apt comments already made: the evenness of quality was remarkable for 18 wines. The Dry River (with a strange herbal (margerum!)) note was a bit odd. The Kusuda had some interesting qualities as well.

As this was an arrangement of some of the best PN wineries in NZ, not surprising that no region stood out. Fine examples were shown from Martinborough, Waipara and Central Otago. Though the Felton was probably my favorite and the Rippon special, Martinborough was well represented by Ata Rangi and Escarpment.

Howard was kind enough to take me on my first visit to Martinborough the next day where we had several more very fine Pinots. Now I “get” Martinborough. It is such a small, well defined area sitting as it is on a precious, deep deposit of old riverbed. There will never be much of it as it is so restricted.

Some thanks should go to this wine board and those who participate in it. It was particularly enjoyable to meet, talk with, get to break bread with and put a face to several people I’ve only known from their submissions to the board. Truly remarkable!

Peter Rosback

Sineann

Peter, I look forward to the reunion… next year!

Safe travels back home.

Peter, you’re most welcome, it was a pleasure.

See you back here soon!

Cheers, Howard