TN: 2017 Heitz-Lochardet Pommard 1er Clos Poutures

  • 2017 Domaine Heitz-Lochardet Pommard 1er Cru Clos Poutures - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Pommard 1er Cru (7/17/2021)
    This is such an extraordinary Pommard. So aromatic. Sexy. Red fruit. Mineral. The palate is still quite firm but this satisfies all of my Burgundy desires. Long mineral red fruit finish. Absolutely stunning. I bought magnums because of this early drinking sexiness. Big kudos to Monsieur Heitz.
  • 2017 Domaine Heitz-Lochardet Pommard 1er Cru Clos Poutures - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Pommard 1er Cru (7/16/2021)
    This is an amazing wine. So aromatic. So red fruited. Very mineral. Long and very young. This has a tremendous drinking window but I am not ashamed to drink it right now. First rate Pommard.
  • 2017 Domaine Heitz-Lochardet Pommard 1er Cru Clos Poutures - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Pommard 1er Cru (7/12/2021)
    Tremendous aromas of red fruit. Spice. Medium concentrated. Intensely fruited on the palate. Incredible finish with mineral and red fruit. Wonderful.
  • 2017 Domaine Heitz-Lochardet Pommard 1er Cru Clos Poutures - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Pommard 1er Cru (12/11/2020)
    Beautiful aromas. Lighter color but intense red fruit. Mineral. Gains weight with air. Excellent!

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This is one of the best Pommards you will ever taste IMHO. My friend who sells this to me gave me some magnums in offer. I JUMPED on them. Stunning.

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3 bottles this week? You must really like it.

Yes I do! I wanted to make sure it wasn’t a mirage.

Has anyone had the 2019 Clos Poutures.

Not yet; I bought some but haven’t had any yet.

I had a 2020 Volnay Taillepieds in the Armand Heitz tasting room in Pommard this summer. It was excellent and the best in the line-up. Unfortunately, I didn’t write down the notes; I was passing through Pommard on a bike. I don’t recall tasting Pommard Poutures at that time though.

Well, you and Don were my top hopes. Maybe others have.

Has anyone tried the Rugiens? Been intrigued by that one and keep toying with the idea of buying some.

Was able to try the 2020 Armand Heitz line up during a visit in June. The Poutures was delicious but it’s just a baby all red fruit but elegant even this young. I will say I personally love the Morgeot rouge and was hoping to try the Rugiens but it wasn’t available to taste.

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Has anyone had the 16 poutures?

I just picked up bottles of 16 and 17 from HDH and will open one tomorrow.

I assume 17 may still be drinking better?

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I haven’t tried the 16 in some time. I don’t really ever remember it being quite as silky as the 17 I still love the 17.

Maybe I’ll open the 17 then; I have a whole bunch in the cellar anyways. I bought all the 17s that HDH had after your first TNs.

This topic is encouraging for reminding me not every red Burgundy needs to be cellared until the second coming of Christ in order to be rewarding.

The 2017 was drinking great in May. Have not had the 2016. Has anyone had the 2020?

Most better Burgundies need time. Every once in a while, there is a good vintage that drinks well young. But, then, people underestimate the aging potential of those vintages. Some recent ones are 2000, 2007 and 2017. On the other hand, 1999s are fabulous, but are just getting mature. Most better 2005s are still way too young. And, most better wines from 2010, another fabulous vintage, are still very primary and too young.

But, in general, if you want to drink Burgs young, drink wines like Bourgogne Rouge, Chorey les Beaune, etc. Never reach the heights of a mature Burg from a better site, but can be quite enjoyable. But, producer, producer, producer.

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Not yet

I basically follow this advice and have willingly forgotten about the more high end red Burgundy I’ve bought (what little there is of it). However I can’t get a 2010 Amiot-Servelle Derriere la Grange out of my mind. Not the most prestigious label in the world, but I thought it was utterly transcending, intoxicating, you name it. At 10 years old I could certainly imagine it getting it different, but not necessarily better.

Have not had that wine, but you seem to want Burgundy to taste like Burgundy, but to somehow miraculously have the benefits of age while drinking a young wine. There are plenty of wines in the world where the wine tastes as good as it will get at a young age. For example, many California Pinots taste as good as they will get. Some Bourgogne Rouge taste great at a young age. But, if you want a wine to taste like your 2010 did, you will have to be drinking a wine 12 years old or more, with a relative handful of exceptions. It is not Bourgogne Rouge, it is premier cru Chambolle-Musigny.

I don’t know of a way to change the rules of chemistry. If you want a wine to taste like a 12 year old premier cru Chambolle-Musigny, you either have a wait or buy a wine with age on it.

There is a reason why people spend a lot of money on Burgundy and why Burgundy can cost a lot of money. It is called your reaction to the 2010 Amiot-Servelle Derriere la Grange.

How are the wines under the Armand Heitz label different from Heitz-Lochardet?

They aren’t. Armand Heitz - formerly Heitz-Lochardet. Same domaine.

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