OK I will put myself onto the hot seat, I realize this is a very popular wine among the critics and the residents here. I am not liking it at all. I have had a lot of 2016 wines over the last handful of years as I’ve made a concerted push to build that retirement cellar. I love this vintage like you cannot believe. it has every single element in play, including freshness and purity. I find this Meyney remarkably clumsy. I will concede it might be in a bad spot right now, but I’ve had a lot of 2016s that are showing beautifully even though we know they will be better with time. Tronquoy Lalande, a perfect example. As I sit here on the second day following this wine, I feel like somebody stuck a 2 x 10 oak plank in my mouth and I’m sucking on it for no other reason other than the fact that I’m desperately trying to discern some aesthetic, spiritual, or intellectual pleasure out of this wine. I found none. I really have not liked many recent vintages of this once-heralded château. Quite a shame since the wines from the 1980s were glorious.
I dumped it. I’m done with these two days of suffer. Time for the whisky!
I’ll see your critique and raise you a few decades - the last good Meyney was the 1990.
those old Cordier-era Meyneys were wonders. sadly, none of the bottles I’ve tried post-Cordier have done anything for me.
Exactly. And the 86 Meyney at least is still holding well
I enjoyed the 2020 over Christmas - bought a half case or so after the first bottle at sub 30 a bottle.
The 2016 St Estephe - at roughly the same price as Meyney - that has blown me away is Marquis de Calon. And although I’ll give a try to deuxieme’s, it’s usually a bad percentage play.
Thanks, Arv, have not tried that one. For that appellation, I bought 18 bottles of the 1015 Tronquoy Lalande. It’s smashing.
I’ve only had the 2016 Meyney once, in a small horizontal of $30-50 2016s I organized. I didn’t have a problem with it but it showed more modern and oaky than the others I had with it, including Cantemerle, Reserve de la Comtesse, Le Pape and Chasse Spleen. I ended up buying Chasse Spleen as it was my value favorite.
Mssr Adouze informs me that 1011 is the far superior vintage.
He’s right. Unfortunately, it’s still not ready.
I like that 2016 Chasse Spleen a lot. Bought it up in 375s.
Ugh. Fat fingers. Or too much whisky.
2016!!!
Maybe it’s just too early to tell…
I heard somewhere that wine ages and not always homogeneously.
I’m still working on my 1010s
Wasn’t there a plague that plagued the vineyards in that vintage?
Lost a few monks, but what the hey; yields were low
Damn - I’ve got a couple. Sounds as bad as the Labégorce 2016 I had recently which received the same praise from the same critic. Since we now know Neal’s taste hasn’t changed, it must be ours which has. But there’s a detail you may have missed - guess who is the consultant? Nope, not Michel - Hube! One can always rely on him to ruin a fine wine.
You’ll laugh, but when I was drinking it on the first night, I was like, “hmmm, like an amped up 2016 Lanessan”.
You see - you’re in the wrong profession!