You have it mixed up with the vintage from 1177 BCE, the year civilization died.
Your note seems odd. Are the professional critics, e.g, JR 17.5, and CT’ers outliers? CT score based on 108 reviews: 91.8.
1015?
Did these happen to be library releases? 
I don’t understand what’s odd about it. Tastes differ.
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Cordier releases from say 1985 to 1990 are so yummy it’s hard to describe 
In all fairness to more recent vintages, I think people like Robert and myself (my first whole case purchase was the 89 Meyney in 1995) and all the rest the gang that know the Cordier era Meyneys well have some serious baggage. Those 80s Meyneys were so good (and so cheap), maybe even rising to 3rd Growth level, everything that’s come since has been a multi-decade letdown, at least for this taster.
@Marc_Frontario what was that one bottle we shared together and both were put off by the oak presence, 2005? I was not that thrilled with 2009, either.
2009 didn’t do it for me either: too polished and smooth. I liked the 2000 drunk last year though.
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I’d been meaning to post: Several years ago I found a half bottle of 2000 Meyney in a store in Shibuya and drank it while in Tokyo. I thought it was pretty good and not out of line with the 80s vintages in style, though not as compelling. My impression is that the newer vintages (not sure since exactly when, but after 00 and at least by 16) have a flashier oak style. It’s hard to know what they’ll age into.
I remember that I wasn’t so impressed with the 1990 back when it came on the market. I found it less vibrant than the 89 and 86 and a little weedy. Quite a few years later I inherited some from my dad and by then it seemed just as good as the others.
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I agree. There’s a plush quality in recent Meyney and, candidly, several other favorite Bordeaux from the past that just doesn’t do it for me. I don’t want the past, but as with wines we make, I want to see the lineage, the heredity from the past. The 16 Sociando Mallet for example struck me as maybe even jammy and a little boozy. To the commenter who asks how do these wines rate well if they’re accused here of not being (so) good? Obviously tastes vary and many wines get good scores and have a plush, ripe, glossy quality that makes for them “good wine” for many. For me and maybe others, those glossy, smooth wines lack edge to get a hold of. They’re slippery in a way where I want a wine with a little more textural grip (not just tannin). Some wines are like rock climbing up glass, there’s nowhere to hold on to. Hope that makes sense. Just my opinion of course!
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As far as I remember, everyone at my horizontal liked the 2016 Meyney well enough. It might have been the favorite of some. I’m not at all surprised that it gets good ratings. There are much oakier wines that are hugely popular. It’s possible that @Robert.A.Jr’s bottle was a little grumpy so it was oak dominated, or perhaps Robert was grumpy, so I’m not surprised by that showing either.
Alfert is always happy, come on! I did have another bottle of something else open and was relatively satisfied. We all know wine can be a moving target, but for me, I have several data points on more recent Meyney, enough to know I’m out.
Cellartracker said it was OTH in 1015.
Hi there,
first post here, so be kind please.
In my tasting book nothing wrong with Meyney 2016.
Had this head to head with MdC 2016 in 2020.
MdC was much more on the modern, more elegant silky and red fruit driven side of the road, Meyney black fruit and petit verdot driven, more classicaly styled wine, more St. Estephe dna than MdC is supposed to be.
No signs of too much oak in Meyney these days.
MdC is made for earlier drinking in my opinion, Meyney isn’t, that’s for sure.
Give it time, it’s still a young wine.
Won’t open my bottles of Meyney 2016 before 2028, later maybe.
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I tried the 2014 this weekend. It was awful. The winemaker(s) tried to fashion a concentrated extracted wine in a cool non solar vintage. The results speak for themselves. Over oaked and over extracted it has a nasty bitter aftertaste.
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