And of course it’s also not what the OP asked for, but hey Berserkers!
p.s. Clos Ste. Hune is now more like $200+.
I’ve found a good number in the 9-10 range, so it’s possible. For how long remains to be seen, unfortunately.
Kabinett Feinherb or Spätlese Feinherb? I suspect the former.
Yes, Kabi FH mostly. Have found a few Spat FH, though (Falkenstein comes to mind).
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Yeah, a Spätlese Feinherb from a top-tier Middle Mosel site is going to be riper and thus higher alcohol.
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@Colby_Scott
Gackes - exactly what I’m looking for at 10% al. Will hunt it down - thanks!
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One good producer that has not been mentioned yet is Immich-Batterieberg whom has quite many high end single vineyard bottlings with feinherb-levels of sugars BUT it highly depends on a vintage as I-B is not part of any organization and Kollman doesn’t market best wines as a “GG” it doesn’t really matter if the wine is not completely “dry” in some vintages. Trabener Zollturm, Enkircher Batterieberg and Enkircher Ellergrub has often up to 15 - 18 g sugars but you have to check vintage analysis before buying as sometimes they also ferment to completely dry. But the dry ones are very good too so that’s not a big problem 
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I get it. I buy both, because they’re unique and I so love the Loewen, but the quality difference to me is not nearly as big as the price difference. The Selbach is just such a great value.
Yes, very much so.
I think you would need 10-20 years to assess the quality differences. The 1896 is made from 100+ year old un-grafted steep vineyards. It is a truly unique wine and amongst the best Rieslings made anywhere in the world. They also only make one barrel of it.
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Much bigger barrel than a 225L barrique though, right?
I agree we need more time to assess what kind of wine the 1896 is going to turn out to be. The pricing is fair given the rarity of the raw materials and the effort they’ve put in to make the most of them. Still, Schmitt-Wagner’s wine from the same vines was a $15-$20 wine, and generally lovely, but none of mine aged into anything profound. So there is a bit of a question mark hovering over what we can expect out of the Loewen version(s). (Fortunately the cheaper tan label makes it less costly to experiment!)
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I’m also trying to figure out how 100+ year old vines from steep slopes is different from the Zeltinger Sonnenuhr. Pretty sure the Ur Alte Reben vines are also ungrafted.
Both great wines. I am not upset that Selbach is half the price. Stein 1900 is also much less. I think I am going to open all three one of these days.
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That’s fair! I’m trying to hold on to a but of each to see that.
Not sure my tasting skills will be so great in 20 years, but hoping!
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That was my recollection, though I can’t find a source for that right now.
The '22s are actually 9.5% 
(ABV is a big deal for me.)
Buy one first before committing to more! Ludes wines are some of the most singular Rieslings and I think very much a love or hate thing.
The 2013 Ludes Kabinett Halbtrocken is also an amazing (and very singular) 9.5% low-RS one you should try. Was WotN at one of our group meetings. Simply outstanding.
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