The greatest off-dry / feinherb riesling?

Colby_Scott · January 22, 2025, 10:14pm

#feinherbstudy

David_Bu3ker · January 22, 2025, 10:39pm

I asked Johannes Selbach. I just have to re-find the email.

David_Bu3ker · January 22, 2025, 10:40pm

Remember the 1998 Spätlese Halbtrocken?

Yule_Kim · January 22, 2025, 11:16pm

The 2001 M-C Mußbacher Eselshaut Auslese out of 375 last month was also drinking fantastically well.

What a great swansong vintage for HGS.

DougS · January 22, 2025, 11:23pm

How could I forget Stein 1900?? Also such a grest wine.

JamesW · January 22, 2025, 11:31pm

Also seems AJ ADAM In Der Sengerei fits the bill:
Feinherb - 22g sugar - 10% alcohol - Grand Cru - $60
Any tasting notes?

Jayson_Cohen · January 23, 2025, 1:52am

Had this last of my bottles in August. It was great. Better than a bottle about 7-8 years ago. Amazing texture to go with the aromatics.

Pau1_M3nk3s · January 23, 2025, 1:53am

Ahem.

Colby_Scott · January 23, 2025, 2:49am

#EastBayRieslingSquad

JamesW · February 11, 2025, 1:32am

Had these side by side this weekend - the last two are feinherb.
All very high-tension, precise wines. Tho can’t say I would tell them apart unprompted.

N.Lehto · February 11, 2025, 1:02pm

I actually just had a Reichsgraf von Kesselstatt Scharzhofberger Kabinett feinherb 2014 the other night, so it’s funny to see this story appear here now!

The bottle was by the way absolutely singing…

Charlie_Gierling · February 11, 2025, 1:56pm

One of the masters of this style is Markus Molitor. His 2015 Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese *** White Cap for example, or the Version from Wehlener Sonnenuhr.

Robert_Dentice · February 11, 2025, 2:01pm

White cap would be dry. As I am sure you know Green is Feinherb. But yes I agree that Markus does really well with the style.

Charlie_Gierling · February 11, 2025, 2:36pm

You are right. But the White Caps are often not very dry, so I thought they fit here.

N.Lehto · February 11, 2025, 2:37pm

Yes, the green ones are absolutely great - but to be honest, all his wines are!
I have a bottle of Zeltinger Sonnenuhr Auslese *** 2018 (Green) from him that I cannot wait to try…

Robert_Panzer · February 16, 2025, 3:36pm

Yup, Molitor *** Green Capsule Zeltinger Sonnenuhr is the most profound feinherb i have evert tried, from a few different vintages.

Loersch Fels-Terrassen feinherb is crazy good too.

I import both.

Robert_Dentice · February 16, 2025, 4:12pm

@Robert_Panzer Are you coming to the dinner next week!

For those in the NYC area Ilis one of my favorite restaurants in NYC is having a Markus Molitor dinner. Markus Molitor Jr and Daniel Kiowski will be in attendance.

Of course I will be there and will be bringing extra wine from cellar.

Robert_Panzer · February 16, 2025, 4:33pm

Nope.
Utah.

gavin.f · March 3, 2025, 1:26pm

@Robert_Dentice, did you post notes from this somewhere? I’ve only had a couple of the wines, but have been impressed each time.

Robert_Dentice · March 3, 2025, 1:50pm

I did not. I really did not take notes. The three highlights for me are unfortunately very hard to find and / or expensive. 18 and 21 Doctor and 21 Scharzhofberger Kabinett. I brought the 2021s.

All of the wines generally showed very well especially the Feinberbs.