Thanks for providing a link to that thread. I didn’t bother to look for it.
David,
Russell Faulkner kindly linked to a previous discussion.
These wines were a staple for me from the mid-60s through the 70s. As per the previous thread, at the time I had no way at home of measuring sugar, TA or pH. As per Lars Carlberg in the previous thread, the sugars were actually usually in the range of 20 - 30 grams, I don’t mind being corrected.
Not so much correction, as we are talking about different eras. It helps to know the time period you are talking about.
I was introduced to Maximin Grunhaus in the mid to late 60s; loved it, could rarely afford it. A year or two later I branched out and my go-to became the Winzerverein Ayler Kupp. Ockfener Bockstein, Serriger Schloss Saarsteiner, Auf der Wiltinger Kupp came into the mix as well.
This is my favorite. It has such amazing depth, a broad range of fruit expression, and something that I can only call earthy, almost like development but not quite, that makes it really distinctive. It’s one of the most impressive, complex young Rieslings I have had, across multiple vintages.
For me, a close second to the above. People who prefer a more citrusy expression might prefer it. There are some similar characteristics here. I don’t know if it has to do with the extremely old vines, winemaking, sites, or (I suspect) a combination of the three.
For me, the Mosel and its tributaries are where these off-dry Rieslings really shine.
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But this is so different from off-dry German Riesling, so much that they could be different grape varieties.
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While I love the Loewen 1896, I do balk at the price, which is basically double the Selbach Ur Alte Reben.
The greatest off-dry / feinherb riesling?
The Gackes
It’s a bit disappointing these are relatively high ABV.
This is a lieu-dit in the Thörnicher Ritsch farmed by Julian Ludes. Gackes Oben and Gackes Unten. Excellent wines!
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How might you expect the ABV to be lower in these days of climate change? It’s not going to be 8% and just off-dry.
The cadastral place-name, or Gewannname, is Auf dem Gackes. Hermann Ludes nicknames his holding in this vineyard area as “Gackes oben” and “Gackes unten,” or the part of Gackes above and below the slate crag.
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What about Stein’s Alfer Holle 1900? That should be in the price range and style preference.
Thanks,
Zachary
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No but the 1988 Joh. Jos. Prum Bernkasteler Lay Riesling Auslese Halbtrocken was really magnificent in November 2018
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Grunhaus Superior and Selbach Uralte Reben.
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That one occurred to me but in most vintages it feels much closer to fully trocken than feinherb.
Keith,
I think sometimes it’s Feinherb, sometimes Trocken. But it should be easy to source from Vom Boden.
Thanks,
Zachary
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But it’s not expensive enough 
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Winesearcher low is like $75 which is close enough 
Thanks,
Zachary
Different from comparing Chiani to Brunello?