All my interactions have been very encouraging, but my first two orders havenāt come in yet (theyāre not late, it just hasnāt been the time yet), so I canāt tell you that part.
Iām in the bullish camp, but I also wouldnāt put (for me) huge dollars out until we see a track record.
Search function sure seems to be broken.
The search is a little messed up, but they are aware of it. I have taken delivery of one case and two more have arrived in the US.
They are clearing customs and storing in Connecticut IIRCā¦ havenāt figured out local pickup in DC yet as of a week ago.
Shipping has been quoted around $45/case.
@Adam_Lapierre can add perhaps!?
After so many being burned by Premier Cru, I assumed the appetite for consumers spending with retailers who donāt actually posses the bottles theyāre selling would be diminished. Not saying Vint is running a ponzi as I have no knowledge to support that. Just looking for feedback from customers who have received their orders.
I donāt know how Premier Cru went down, but the folks who run this seem to have a solid track record. I do buy en premeur most years from Bordeaux, but maybe you look at that differently because of how long itās been around?
All that said, I havenāt pulled the trigger yet because Iām hesitant on throwing money out there. Waiting to get some feedback from WineBerserkers before giving it a try.
Ordered a half case in early October. Havenāt received anything yet but was told recently it was about to ābe put on the boatā and should arrive in the US in February. Iāll report back then.
as far as we know based on the discussion with Adam, Vint has a significant portion of their business being Liv-ex b2b arbitrage. Thats not to say premier cru cant happen, but of course, its a viable business model albeit very tight margins, with long delivery times. If youāre ok with that theres no reason not to use, probably.
Hi Justin - we have a few from the other thread who have ordered and received their wines. (@Chris_Seiber - I just looked at your first order, and itās on the water, we should have it in our warehouse in a few weeks) Some of the stock listed on our marketplace is from liv-ex, some is from other trusted stockholding merchants (negociants, etc.) and there is also a good amount of inventory that has been sourced and is on offer from our investment arm (www.vint.co).
We donāt source from private collections, itās all bonded / professionally stored stock in original case, etc. etc. Happy to answer any questions you (or anyone else) may have.
There was a mixup with shipping dates on a recent order, but Adam was extremely responsive and immediately made things right. Would definitely recommend them. Note if you live in the DMV: though they have a DC address, it seems that the warehouse is in CT.
I recently placed and received an order for some in-stock bottles. Not as āhigh stakesā as a pre-arrival order, to be sure, but my bottles were shipped out right when I wanted and Adam was very responsive. Happy to report a smooth experience, which is more than I can say for Fed-Ex who delayed the order in transit!
Iād also note that this wouldnāt be how a Ponzi scheme works, anyway. A Ponzi scheme isnāt taking a bunch of money and never delivering anything. Itās taking money, giving good return/deals so you get more buyers/investors, using the new money to keep giving more good return/deals, using that to get more buyers/investors, until one day you canāt get enough new business to cover it and then it all falls apart and those last rounds of buyers/investors are left holding the bag.
e.g. āintroduce a friend and get 10% of their spend with us every year!ā
actually I guess thats more like MLM
This isnāt really the case for prearrival wines, we pay for everything before itās released to us. The only exception is with some negociants, who might offer terms.
Happy to report I received my first order from Vint, ordered at end of August 2023, delivered this week. 6 of Cos dāEstournel, which I seem to recall being ~10-15% lower than next best price on WS. Was shipping to NY, so when I ordered I requested wine to be placed in storage before shipping to avoid NY sales tax. Shipping was reasonable $5 per bottle. Vint was responsive to my inquiries during the process, which alleviated my concerns as they seemed a new retailer. Will use them again.
I have a 6-pack of 2020 Bouchard ordered in July that still shows as processing. Whatever that means.
In October, I ordered a case of 2020 Desjourneys that apparently just arrived. When I have it in hand, Iāll report back.
Saw a good deal on Wine Searcher for some champagne. Never bought from them and canāt find any threads on them through the forum.
Anyone have any experience with them?
Search Vint. There have been a couple recent threads on them. Most is only available pre order so it takes around 3 months to boat over from Europe.