I recently placed and received an order for some in-stock bottles. Not as “high stakes” as a pre-arrival order, to be sure, but my bottles were shipped out right when I wanted and Adam was very responsive. Happy to report a smooth experience, which is more than I can say for Fed-Ex who delayed the order in transit!
I’d also note that this wouldn’t be how a Ponzi scheme works, anyway. A Ponzi scheme isn’t taking a bunch of money and never delivering anything. It’s taking money, giving good return/deals so you get more buyers/investors, using the new money to keep giving more good return/deals, using that to get more buyers/investors, until one day you can’t get enough new business to cover it and then it all falls apart and those last rounds of buyers/investors are left holding the bag.
e.g. ‘introduce a friend and get 10% of their spend with us every year!’
actually I guess thats more like MLM
This isn’t really the case for prearrival wines, we pay for everything before it’s released to us. The only exception is with some negociants, who might offer terms.
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Happy to report I received my first order from Vint, ordered at end of August 2023, delivered this week. 6 of Cos d’Estournel, which I seem to recall being ~10-15% lower than next best price on WS. Was shipping to NY, so when I ordered I requested wine to be placed in storage before shipping to avoid NY sales tax. Shipping was reasonable $5 per bottle. Vint was responsive to my inquiries during the process, which alleviated my concerns as they seemed a new retailer. Will use them again.
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I have a 6-pack of 2020 Bouchard ordered in July that still shows as processing. Whatever that means.
In October, I ordered a case of 2020 Desjourneys that apparently just arrived. When I have it in hand, I’ll report back.
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Saw a good deal on Wine Searcher for some champagne. Never bought from them and can’t find any threads on them through the forum.
Anyone have any experience with them?
Search Vint. There have been a couple recent threads on them. Most is only available pre order so it takes around 3 months to boat over from Europe.
Seems I was searching incorrectly!
Thank you.
Hi Dale - your Bouchard is in stock, you should have received a notification from us, apologies if that did not happen. I see your second order is arriving in the next 10 days (give or take). My colleague Michelle will follow up with you over email.
Many Thanks.
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Awesome. Thanks
Maybe this is a trick everyone else knows, but is getting things stored for some period a way to avoid sales tax? If so that’d be huge - I’d love to learn your methods. I’m in Seattle and pay about 10% sales tax.
No. Depending on how Washington’s sales or use tax law is crafted, it may be a way of delaying paying the tax, which in itself is not without value.
Hi. I was not referring to any ‘trick’ in the post above but just the delivery option I experienced with vint. I am not familiar with when state taxes are collected, but maybe it’s the result of their business model or wines being imported to a warehouse in another state (e.g. a sales tax free state)? I suggest you contact vint if you are interested in one if their wines and what delivery options you have. They were very responsive and the lowest price for my purchase even if sales tax were applied.
I have ordered a case in November and yet to receive them. In my mind, their offers of selling well-known wines at a discount for 3~4 month pre-order seems like a tactic to short sell wine; in other words, they are making bets that wine prices will come down in few months. This seems to be working for some wines (especially champagne), but I think there is some risk; in particular, if wine prices do not come down by this summer or goes up, who knows what will happen to these orders? I have the same thoughts with Larchmont.
I recently received my first notice that my wines are available from Vint Marketplace, so here is a sequence for anyone considering them or awaiting a pre-arrival:
- I ordered a 6-pack on 10/18/23 with a pre-arrival timeframe (if I recall) around 12-24 weeks.
- The status was pending for the pre-arrival with no approximation of delivery timeframe after purchase.
- I got an email saying my order had arrived on 3/6/24.
- The email sent me to a link that asked to confirm my address and if I wanted an OWC also.
- A week later (3/13/24), I received a PDF invoice with a link to pay for shipment to Missouri.
- Shipping for the 6-pack was $30 + $7.17 insurance +$20 to get the OWC. I’m not sure if the shipping would be lower without the OWC or not…
So far, it’s been a fine process with the small nit that I’d like to have at least a broad approximation of the arrival time for pre-arrivals. I’ll ping this again when the bottles arrive.
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great post - thanks for the details.
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I just placed an order for a couple of 6 packs myself. Will post when I get them!
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