Recent red burgundy vintage experiences

That’s cool, I think I still have one of those.

I had one of those same Fourriers a couple months back and it was really good!

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IIRC this was the first or second year of transition from Francois to Erwan but Erwan didn’t fully implement the pronounced style changes until 2007. Frankly I find some of the ‘06 Faiveleys to be old school (a recent NSG Chaignots) and some new. This was in the latter camp and really delicious.

  • 2006 Faiveley Latricières-Chambertin - France, Burgundy, Côte de Nuits, Latricières-Chambertin Grand Cru (2/6/2026)
    Slow oxed for an hour and decanted for sediment. Deep red berry fruit and baking spice. Medium+ bodied with layers of red fruits, aged but not tired. More spice that lingers on the long finish. Outstanding bottle, didn’t want it to end.

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This is nice. Very open and approachable at the moment. Pretty red fruits and silky tannins. Quite elegant. I’ve enjoyed the 23 Anne Gros wines I’ve tried.

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Nice I haven’t opened any 23s yet

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:2019 Pataille Marsannay Clos du Roy…… came very highly recommended as the type of wine that everybody’s looking for now. Figured I had to give it a shot and the price wasn’t too bad. Finally got around to opening one. I was totally unimpressed, I didn’t get that funk and fizz. It reminded me of a California Pinot.

1985 Pothier Riusset Pommard prem cru epenots PNP Bought at auction. Magnum. Must’ve been stored very well. The wine was spectacular. Under brush, forest floor, sweet, jammy fruits. People drink the dregs at the end.

2005 Clos de Lambrays…..magnum….. initially quite tight Probably should’ve decanted the wine. Over the next couple of hours it started to unwind and was starting to give some pleasure. I think this wine will taste like the 1985 Pothier in 20 years. However, for now this wine wasn’t even in the top four wines of the night being beat out by the 1985 Pothier, 2005 Barroche Pure, 2010 Brunello Poggio de Soto and 2006 Taittanger Rose.

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What is that type? I wouldn’t have thought there was enough consensus for an ‘everybody’ to exist.

This is what a certain merchant said to me referring to burgundy. I am just repeating his words pretty much. I usually don’t follow the crowd that way, but I decided to because I was ordering something else from him that I really wanted.

Past experience of following the crowd has led me to own wine that I don’t really want and several bad experiences that I could’ve avoided.. Unfortunately, this included ordering wine from Premier Cru. Lol.

FWIW, on Premier Cru: though I lost some money at the end, dealing with them was a net win. Got some amazing deals…

A handful of '22 and '23 Bourgogne and village:

2022 Bachelet Gevrey-Chambertin VV
Beautifully perfumed nose of sweet red fruits, florals, and a bit of baking spice. Effortlessly graceful on the palate with a savory finish. So refined and lovely, I’m buying more. Best wine of this list by a clear margin.

2022 Domaine Dujac Morey-Saint-Denis
No surprise that the nose is stemmy and there’s a depth of fruit here that stands out from the rest. On the whole though, this was shut down quite a bit. Not a generous wine at this stage for me, but there’s a level of quality and complexity that’s apparent. Of these wines this one seems to have the most potential, but it’s possible I’m succumbing to label bias. Nonetheless I’m happy to have more to revisit in the future.

2022 Sylvain Cathiard Bourgogne Hautes Cotes de Nuits
Lovely raspberry and a touch of sous bois on the nose. Silky on the palate with gentle tannins. Lovely wine with a finish of macerated strawberries. Too close in price to the Bachelet, which outclasses this one significantly.

2023 Morey-Coffinet Bourgogne
Lovely, pretty, and worth the $40 paid. Not much more to say which is perhaps the point, in a good way.

2023 Gerard Raphet Chambolle-Musigny Les Bussieres
Dark in color and on the nose, a bit blue-fruited. On the edge of flabby. This is a one-and-done. Pass.

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I wish I was more into burgundy back then. I keep hearing about the amazing wins. Overall for me, Premier Cru was a net loss by far. Oh well, lesson learned life goes on.

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Tasted In April 2025.

I wrote:

Really fun to taste a Pataille with this much age. It still shows a healthy amount of fresh fruit to counter balance the more earthy and dried notes. Great complexity on the nose while the tertiary notes are starting to dominate the taste more. Well balanced acidity. A good, but not great glass of aged Burgundy.

It did not show anything “funky”. But also not sure how Pataille made his wines back in 09.

I prefer them younger based on this bottle.

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Was looking at WS just now to see if '23s had arrived here yet, and saw a critic’s note for Clos du Roy saying “no sulfur added”. if that’s really the case and not just that wine, no wonder there could be funk and age issues. p.s. I can sortof understand your comment andrew on 2019 if that was something like a different 2022 I tried, which (unlike '21) was too ripe for my preference.

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I just purchased some 2010 Pataille. Hoping they are more to my liking. This is prior to my trying the 2019. Keeping my fingers crossed.

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Oops. Total brain fart. Deleted my stupidity hopefully before others noticed….

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I’l stick up for Pataille. I’ve drunk I think 15 to 20 reds, whites and even the rose in the past year and had positive experiences. I’ve not drunk anything pre 2017 but for me 2017 and 2019 reds are good right now, 2020 needs more time, the whites are solid but not spectacular and the rose does well with a little more time in bottle, and bottom line is they’re affordable. I haven’t seen this spritz or funkiness recently.

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I enjoyed the '21 Pataille reds a couple of years ago and liked them a lot. No funk or spritz, though the use of whole cluster was clear.

I haven’t had from other vintages, so maybe '21 was an outlier (or perhaps he struggles in riper vintages).

If that is the case, you can probably read it as the wine is shutting down. When I tasted it at the domain in 2024, the gap innquality between this wine and the 1ere crus was slimmer than I expected, particularly Gevrey Combottes. Also a bottle drunk on release was absolutely shining. Personally, I am very long 22 Dujac, so thank you for the interesting data point

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Maybe, it was wide open last year at LP and most 22s are drinking well even at grand cru level. I do think the Dujac village wines are the best on a relative sense from the domaine but I would take the bachelet gc vv 100 times out of 100 over the Dujac msd.

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Any chance you’ve tried the 2017 Dujac MSD? I recently bought some but hasn’t been delivered yet. Can’t wait.