I have no previous experiences with Rousseau, but this 2012 was delicious. Beautiful nose. Seemed super approachable.
2021 Clos de la Maréchale is still lovely, but was less open than a bottle in July.
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I agree with your comments in that from my personal experience I was never impressed by r M-G wines in the 1990s. I owned most of his top wines ( including from 1999 ) but did not have a chance to open them as they became too pricey for my own enjoyments. Guess different strokes for different folks …
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My first 2009 in some time. Not sure if it’s the village or the producer or perhaps 2009 is losing some of its fruit forward character from previous years but this Clavelier Les beaux monts was excellent.
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So it was totally ready to go and open, or maybe still a little young? I have a few of these and was thinking about having one soon…
I remember someone else on the board saying those Claveliers can take forever to be ready.
I’m a little surprised that is ready as clavelier typically needs awhile but that’s promising.
Very nice 2013 from G. Noellat
NSG Boudots
Feminine in style, airy, complex strawberry x umami. Nicely balanced in the mouth, high salvation score, in beginning of maturity but still bright fruit.
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and dependent upon drinkers stylistic preferences. One person’s “lean and slight” is another’s “pretty and transparent” 
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Took 45-60 minutes to unfurl…and I’ve had some mediocre bottles from Clavelier (mostly his Vosne) in the past. But my recollection from some 2009s from a variety of producers over the last 3-5 years were fruit forward and a bit dull without any acid. This was starting to begin a good window for drinking. Lots of Vosne spice and well balanced. Not life changing but has upside and was a pleasant surprise last night.
Decided to open a 2008 Lignier Charmes.
The first aromas were qualities I associate with whole cluster: cedar and greenness. Behind that: red fruit, soil tones, deeper gamebird qualities.
These qualities were mirrored on the palate, though tart cherry also appeared on the finish. At first the midpalate was not speaking much but with time it started to carry some volume.
Overall this wine was certainly finely made. To me the predominant qualities at present are the greenness and tannins of whole cluster, rich meaty Gevrey qualities (including soil notes), and red fruit.
I need to continue my Burgundy education but I am wondering if I prefer wines which have a more elevated tenor (than Gevrey) and also not as strong of a whole cluster component. It could be that whole cluster does better in riper years than 2008, and as such on this occasion the whole cluster was sticking out more than it would be in other wines.
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Idk, what did you think of the 08 CDLR we had in October?
To me the 18 and 19 CdlR had more concentrated dark fruit flavor, whereas the 08 had more of a balance of red fruit and savory qualities.
i love your comments : simple and yet precise.
These are the true facts for pure enjoyments of red burgundy wines.
For me the main point is : look for producers who crafted their wines to the style which you prefer and preferable conformable to your wine budgets.
Hope my younger-generation brother…is slowly developing his own taste and find his right own path for his own enjoyment.
This is my sincere New Year wish for him.
I opened an 09 Drouhin Musigny in Fall 23’. Liked it, and recent notes on CT are consistently positive.
I agree with @Tom_Blach If you have only one and are early in your wine journey, I think it’s fine to open it with a couple wine friends and see what is the what.
I’m a fan of Drouhin Amoureuse, Musigny and Griotte, but mostly own recentish vintages (09, and 15-20). Even for a primary fruit-loving hayseed like me, 16 - 20 are pretty much only about the fruit right now so I’ll let those sleep awhile; complexity will come later.
My personal impression is that the house style for those and the Chambolle 1er blend got bigger, more “modern” from 16 on- I don’t know if that’s the warmer vintage trend or Veronique has changed her vinification. Probably some of both.
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'12 Faiveley Corton was maybe a bit more mature than I expected as it was rather silky and structure had integrated. Very much enjoyed. I don’t know when the style change happened at Faiveley but this have to believe this was the “new school”
- 2012 Faiveley Corton-Clos des Cortons Faiveley - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Corton Grand Cru (1/2/2026)
Explosive aromatics tha were actually more expressive upon opening. Plenty of sous bois, mushroom and dark fruit notes. Palate is smooth and silky, quite refined with minimal tannin. Has the intensity of a grand cru but on the lighter on weight. Seems to be drinking very well with a long runway. (94 points)
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The son Erwan took over in 2004.
Interesting you mention this. I was looking at the notes on the 2023 CM 1er Cru and the drinking windows from Meadows and Morris were relatively early - especially Meadows who even mentioned it could be enjoyed early. Was a bit surprised by that based on what I’ve heard about the wine - but also since Meadows seemingly recommends holding things until eternity.
I was thinking last night as I drank a 2007 Leroy NSG how much I have been enjoying the vintage over the last few years. I’m going to be sad when I run out.
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Opening an ‘09 next week, can’t wait!
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He had more involvement from 04 but I think 06 is the first vintage to show the new direction.
They made fabulous 2005s.