Hasn’t the population increased a lot in the last ten years? I imagine that could put a strain on the power grid if everyone fires up AC
It’s Arizona. I assume everyone always has AC on
I guess the one advantage is that you’d presumably never have the problem Texas had last year with too cold of temperatures either.
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I do, for sure!
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Yeah definitely necessary in FL. Do ppl in FL prefer buried propane over natural gas?
My generator runs off natural gas but I can’t imagine we’d have disruptions. Also, the warmest the cellar will get without any cooling is like 61.5.
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You totally screwed us buddy. When my cooling unit goes out ill be directing my insurance company to you 
On a serious note, Ryan is spot on. Its very rare that we lose power at all. And if we do its never for long 
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I have a very large liquid propane tank that is buried and a 40 KW generator it’s tied to half of my house and my cellar and I’ve definitely had to run it for hurricanes and storms in the past
I’ve seen a number of Florida people do that. Do you lose natural gas during hurricanes?
40 kw isn’t big enough for the whole house?
quit yer posting unless you post pics of that awesome new cellar!
Dammit, Julie wanted me to perfect the pictures. Let me see what I can do.
They looked pretty damn perfect when we saw them!
I feel like we are no longer talking about the cellar…
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The cubbies worked out to be 38 inches wide by 28 tall. That was not really intentional. I took the width of the space I had, divided by 2 and accounted for the thickness of the supporting plywood. For height, I divided by 3 so I ended up with four equal sized rectangles contained with the shelving and an open space of equal height above.
The material is just good old 3/4 inch plywood. The shelving is open back, meaning the vertical supports are only on the left, right, and center. I used scrap plywood to put a cleat on the back wall to support the shelves. I originally used a single layer of plywood for the shelves. An online sag calculator confirmed it was strong enough, but that there would be visible sag once the bins were full. That bothered me enough to add a second layer of plywood and now there is no visible sag.
Edit to add:
You will notice that the top shelf has some vertical bars near the right side to keep the tubes from rolling. I wanted to leave space around the cooling unit so air could circulate. I used black steel pipe, attached to the plywood using a flange and a few screws. My vector math is t good enough to know how much strain is on them, so this is a potential weak spot. So far so good!
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awesome. im having cubbies built for me ( as part of my new home build)now which i think are going to be smaller sized, 16" x 16" x 16". material is set to be baltic birch, unfinished. here’s an image of what’s planned.
unit is CellarPro 3200VSi, fresh air is supplied by my erv (Brink). and of course going to have the cardboard tubes.
You could still add some single deep or double deep vintage view racks on the blank wall when you need a couple more cases of capacity.
Looks great
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Have any of you cellar builders found mammoth bones?
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what kind of lighting is best for a cellar? I am worried about building in overhead pocket lighting because of insulation, mildew, and temp control. what are my options?
I think the technical answer is that best lighting for a cellar is none at all.
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LED has many advantages!
Cooler, color to choice, etc.
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