Jay S. Miller Right On Top Of That S.A. Wine Market

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He openly states that he is being contacted directly by importers and then states that no cheap plonk has reached our shores (USA) from Argentina.

Really?

Amazing

Not even tasted

But why would he taste it…there was no free sandwich in the box! neener

According to a tweet from Jancis Robinson, Dr J also makes reference in the latest WA to "Argentina’s ‘dessert climate.’ "

Why do I somehow suspect that I’d like this cheap Argentinean stuff better than his 95+ point Aussie and Spanish disasters?

It’s getting late early today at the Berserkers…:slight_smile:

Hey, he’s right about that: Melissa and I enjoyed some fantastic desserts in Buenos Aires last year.

Best line of the day!

96/100 range? Any perfect scores?

Is it really necessary to be this nasty? I have a friend in Baltimore (a real Burgundy and German wine guy) who thinks highly of Jay.

Agreed with Howard. Though my own opinion of Miller’s wine tasting credentials and Internet behaviour are very, very low, what’s the purpose of taking potshots at him here? Let’s all do more productive things, like drink wine that’s not Sierra Carche.

Howard
I am glad there is one person that thinks “highly” of Jay’s reporting and tasting ability. On a more serious note, he brought his lack of credibility on his own silly self.
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For Bob to allow this (after that) is just reinforcement that the training wheels are falling off the tricycle over erobertparker.com. For Jay not to know better says that things are getting worse rather than better over there.
Ouch!
What is the over/under as to how long Jay remains part of the ebob staff?

Howard, I have no idea but my guess is that he has a very good palate. Bob had to have some reason to hire him. This doesn’t mean he has what it takes to be a professional critic. Work ethic seems to be lacking. It’s one thing to sit around a dinner table and opine on a dozen or more wines. As you know there is a bit more involved if you want to turn pro.

The ironic bit is that the way DrBigJay does tastings he has no real awareness of the packaging. Accordingly, he could be served a bag-in-a-box wine without knowing it, and presumably give it a 20 year drinking window if it was purple and concentrated.

As an example, see the review of 2006 Penfolds Koonunga Hill Shiraz Cabernet, which he gives a drinking window out to 2022. The wine might have the stuffing, but it’s unlikely that the synthetic cork stopping-up the wine will hold up long-enough to support that…

Ouch, that’s some awful stuff!

Howard,

He “bashed” a wine based upon its packaging. As a wine critic, that shows bias, right?

Just because Jay may have a great palate does not make him a great critic…unless I am missing something.

And he is getting bashed over on Parker’s board right now…I guess he did not even know that this wine has been around for years. Trapiche apparently did not chip in for his free trips to Argentina, so why would he bother tasting their wines.

I don’t really care whether you agree with him or not. I generally don’t read much of what he publishes in the Wine Advocate because I often disagree with his notes. But the bashing of him here seems to take on a personal nature that I don’t see with any other critic (or other person). Unless he is an evil human being, I think the language could focus more on what he has said wrong rather than the glee that some people see in bashing him.

Let us say he does not have what it takes to be a wine critic. Is that a reason to make personal attacks?

Just for the record, I do not think I bashed here.

In the past, yes, but here, no…

I am not sure if you were referring to me, so I am defending myself.

In the spirit of all of this…he is the one who posted on this wine.

Far from bashing on my part, IMHO.

The guy has no business making comments such as these. He isn’t in the business, per his own words, yet he gets emails directly from distributors/importers…what gives? He makes claims that are patently false.

I have never met him and don’t know him as a person…just his online persona of not doing his DD to be taken seriously anymore.