Is this Domaine or Maison Leroy?

I thought it was Domaine, now I am not certain.

…and is it Santenots du Milieu 1er cru? Seems to be some inconsistency in labelling.
Back label says 1064 bottles produced.

I think u can make a determination by the capsule
Red Domaine…white Maison

But not sure that is a hundred percent accurate

ah ha…the bottle I have has a red capsule.

I think her Volnay Santenots is Maison.

Legally, “Domaine” can only be used for producers that make wine from their own vineyards, right? I wonder if the “Mis en bouteille au domaine” carries the same legal implication.

There also seems to be some inconsistency to labelling.
In the past has been labelled as:-
Volnay Santenots
Volnay Santenots 1er
Volnay Santenots 1er du Milieu

Any other thoughts?

Yes.

It’s Domaine.

Domaine Leroy owns:

9 Grands Crus :
Corton-Charlemagne — 43 a 15 ca,
Corton-Renardes — 50 a 14 ca,
Richebourg — 77 a 65 ca,
Romanée-Saint-Vivant — 99 a 29 ca,
Clos de Vougeot — 1 ha 90 a 69 ca,
Musigny — 27 a,
Clos de la Roche — 66 a 50 ca,
Latricières-Chambertin — 57 a 15 ca,
Chambertin — 50 a 03 ca.

8 Premiers Crus :
Volnay 1er Cru Santenots du Milieu — 35 a 10 ca,
Savigny Les Beaune 1er Cru Les Narbantons — 81 a 2 ca,
Nuits-Saint-Georges 1er Cru Aux Vignerondes — 37 a 80 ca,
Nuits-Saint-Georges 1er Cru Aux Boudots — 1 ha 19 a 68 ca,
Vosne-Romanée 1er Cru Aux Brûlées — 27 a 13 ca,
Vosne-Romanée 1er Cru Les Beaux Monts — 2 ha 61 a 13 ca,
Chambolle-Musigny 1er Cru Les Charmes — 22 a 94 ca,
Gevrey Chambertin 1er Cru Les Combottes — 46 a 3 ca.

9 Villages :
Auxey-Duresses “Les Lavières” — 23 a 45 ca,
Pommard “Les Trois Follots” — 6 a 82 ca,
Pommard “Les Vignots” — 1 ha 25 a 99 ca,
Nuits-Saint-Georges “Aux Allots” — 52 a 15 ca,
Nuits-Saint-Georges “Aux Lavières” — 69 a 16 ca,
Nuits-Saint-Georges “Bas de Combe” — 14 a 54 ca,
Vosne-Romanée “Genaivrières” — 1 ha 23 a 31 ca,
Chambolle Musigny “Les Fremières” — 34 a 99 ca,
Gevrey Chambertin — 10 a 95 ca.

Burgundy Appellation:
Bourgogne Aligoté — 2 ha 57 a 91 ca,
Bourgogne Blanc — 35 a 19 ca,
Bourgogne Rouge — 74 a 11 ca,
Côteaux Bourguignons Blanc — 26 a 27 ca,
Côteaux Bourguignons Rouge — 52 a 29 ca.

It´s definitely DOMAINE!
Mis en bouteille au Domaine …
(= bottled at the domaine …)
proprietaire a Vosne-Romanée
(=owner in V…R…)

(moreover Leroy owns definitely a parcel in Santenots …)

This is domaine. Label says “propriétaire” so can only be domaine.

Actually drunk this a couple of months ago. Very good bottle, though pricing there is becoming a bit detached from quality, however high it is.

Thanks Gerhard, Poppy and Thomas.
Drank this wine a few years ago, was quite youthful and a big wine. Current pricing is beyond nose bleed territory.
I have it on my wine list and a punter is travelling 500kms to buy a bottle. I think I am selling it way too cheap, but better to sell them than look at them.

Leroy made very good wines in '93…

Thomas, agreed for these bottles, but what about metayage arrangements? The winemaker would also be the owner of the plot of land, but to me, that also qualify as “domaine” as the winemaker has full control over the process from the beginning to the end. I don’t think Leroy has any such arrangements in place, but curious.

Best regards,
Jozef

Careful relying just on the website, because in my view, she could also perfectly make a separate negoce bottling that would need to be bottled and labeled separately.

Metayage and fermage-agreements are treated like own vineyards: the vineyards are worked, the grapes harvested and the wine made by the domaine … so domaine bottled.
See → DRC Corton … it reads: Mis en bouteille au Domaine … Proprietaire a Vosne-Romanée !
To mention “Prince Florent de Merode” is nice but not necessary …

If a producer buys grapes, must or wine in barrel - then it´s NOT domaine bottled but negociant business!

Agree with the assessment of Domaine based upon the label details. Capsule is a reasonable tell too, but there are domaine bottles with what appear to be maison capsules. I don’t believe the reverse to be true. Volnay Santenots is Leroy’s most confusing bottling in the domaine v. maison differentiation, as there are years where both a domaine and maison offering from Volnay Santenots were released. In my experience, I’ve never seen a “du Milieu” Maison bottling, but it is all possible, so read the fine print on the label, which has legal requirements to be there.

Cheers,
fred

I agree with Fred.

It could be juice ( or grapes ) bought from other but… it was put into the bottles at the Domaine.

My guess is : it is a Maison bottle for the following 2 reasons :

Most of Leroy Domaine bottles in the early or mid-1990s normally carries a serial number on each label.

If this bottle is a Domaine bottle, the label should be : Volnay-Santenots au Millieu ( and not simply a Volnay-Santenots).

Domaine Leroy owns land in Volnay-Santenots au Millieu.



Peter, with all due respect: IMHO that´s wrong - both.

If it´s a Domaine wine it cannot be from juice/grapes “bought” from other!
If juice/grapes were from others it has to be labelled
“Mis en bouteille par Maison Leroy - negociant à Auxey-Duresses”

And it clearly IS a Domaine wine - the label sais so …

I do not own the 1993 but the 1992, 1996 and some more Leroy Volnay-Santenots (bought at Leroy).
The label (of the 1992) is completely identical, and reads only Volnay-Santenots.
The capsule is red, with green French tax medal.
The bottles are numbered, but on the back label. My bottle is No. 1361 from 1452 bottles (and two have been drunk).
BTW: the harvest in 1993 was much smaller.

Maybe Leroy added the “du-Milieu” later, from 1997 (?) onwards.

Gerald…it is always nice to hear ( and talk with you ).

You maybe right 100%.

In my first message, I agreed completely with Fred.

My 2nd message is just an educated guess ( as Kent only mentioned the total number of bottle and did not mention if there was a serial number on the label or not).

I have no experience with Leroy Volnay-Santenots other than l bought a case ( of 12 bottles) of same wine from vintage 1996 in New York USA. …(BTW…I also owned many Demaine wines from the mid-1990s - including 4 bottles of his Musigny from vintage 1995 which was 66% of the whole allocation for the province of Quebec).


*Maybe Leroy added the “du-Milieu” later, from 1997 (?) onwards.

This…I do not know. Merci…