Around $150 for CM and $250 for Fuees?
I wish it were that good.
Fuées is 145€ ex-cellars, FYI.
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Or tariffs, or the plummeting dollar, or the ability for a business to make a profit.
2022 Mugnier wholesale in the US was:
$99 for NSG
$118 for CM
$995 for Amoureuses
$1850 for Musigny
I didn’t see pricing on Fuees, or BM
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Not in my market. Not far off, but about 10% lower than my allocation. 2023 about 5-10% higher.
It will vary in each different market that Wasserman distributes to in the US, I believe. So that would be WA state pricing?
Yup
And I think that Wasserman is direct in some states, or at least used to be.
That Musigny is a big number at wholesale.
I was looking at the NSG. Helps me appreciate it’s not necessarily retailers that have taken up the pricing so aggressively, but the entire 3 tier system…
Are the Wassermans, Rosenthals just absolutely minting it? They are the ones capturing the increasing spread between ex-cellar and retail pricing? How do they convince the producers to keep ex-cellar pricing so low and transfer that wealth into their own pockets?
The margin seems to be a little less on the Maréchale, maybe because the volume is so large.
Reading through this back and forth about pricing reminded me a comment Jasper Morris made on his Inside Burgundy podcast. I was driving to Nashville a couple months ago so I listened a 22 vintage podcast he did awhile back. He spoke about pricing for the vintage and mentioned wine-searcher and how the prices you see on there are often not the price that the wine has traded hands. I didn’t really understand that at the time - I was like “why wouldn’t that be the price?” but now having seen what my local shop has offered me on several producers, I understand his comment a bit better. Being in NC, the prices are still probably “high” in comparison to what some of you get, but significantly lower than quite a lot of things I have seen online.
I’ve gotten more offers on 2022 Mugnier than I have in years. Clearly a high volume vintage. Haven’t seen 23s yet in NY/NJ. Seems like 150/250/500 has been the going rate for NSG/CM/Fuees.
what vintage is the Musigny ?
In my market, the 2022 offer came with the 2017 Musigny vintage
Yup - 2017
Yeah, it’s the weird thing about our market. Widely traded commodity wines, like classified growth Bordeaux and Monsanto CC Riserva, are expensive but you can actually get allocations of some Burgundies/Barolos, etc. at less than market prices.
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Data point: These Roumiers sold out in two hours today:
2022 Roumier Chambolle Musigny les Amoureuses, $4499
2023 Bonnes Mares, $1799
2023 Chambolle Musigny les Cras, $599
Not amazing pricing, I paid at least 20-30% less than that for the same wines.