Help with a wine list

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Having trouble with this one, just pulled out the reds. Markups are high and I’d like to stay <$500. Burgundy preferred but not required. Tempted to just pay $100/bottle corkage.

burgundy
france red
gevrey-chambertin
Bruno Clair, Chambertin-Clos de Bèze, Grand Cru, 1993 3100
Bruno Clair, Les Cazetiers, Premier Cru, 2018 650
René Leclerc, Les Champeaux, Premier Cru, 2017 360
Rousseau, 2014, 375ml 1200
Rousseau, 2015, 375ml 1150
Rousseau, 2016, 375ml 1350
Rousseau, Charmes-Chambertin, Grand Cru, 2014 4000
Rousseau, Charmes-Chambertin, Grand Cru, 2015 4000
Rousseau, Charmes-Chambertin, Grand Cru, 2016 4000
Rousseau, Les Cazetiers, Premier Cru, 2013, 375ml 1550

morey-st. denis
Domaine Georges Roumier, Clos de la Bussière, Premier Cru, 2019 1200
Hubert Lignier, Clos de la Roche, Grand Cru, 2014 1400
Perrot-Minot, La Riotte, Premier Cru, 2017 580

chambolle–musigny
Barthod, Les Baudes, Premier Cru, 2016 550
Barthod, Les Fuées, Premier Cru, 2016 700
Bouchard Père & Fils, 2018 250
Bruno Clair, Bonnes Mares, Grand Cru, 2018 1500
Bruno Clair, Les Véroilles, 2018 340
David Duband, 2020 300
G. Roumier, 2019 850
La Maison Romane, 2020 285
Marchand Tawse, 2014 350

clos-vougeot
Anne Gros, Le Grand Maupertui, Grand Cru, 2009 1125
Anne Gros, Le Grand Maupertui, Grand Cru, 2010 1185
Anne Gros, Le Grand Maupertui, Grand Cru, 2012 900
Anne Gros, Le Grand Maupertui, Grand Cru, 2014 765
Anne Gros, Le Grand Maupertui, Grand Cru, 2015 1000

echezeaux
Anne Gros, Les Loachausses, Grand Cru, 2009 1185
Anne Gros, Les Loachausses, Grand Cru, 2010 1335
Anne Gros, Les Loachausses, Grand Cru, 2012 945
Anne Gros, Les Loachausses, Grand Cru, 2014 810
Anne Gros, Les Loachausses, Grand Cru, 2015 1000

vosne–romanée
Domaine de la Romanée-Conti, La Tâche, Grand Cru, 2017 6000
Domaine de la Romanée-Conti, Romanée-Saint-Vivant, Grand Cru, 2014 4200
Domaine de la Romanée-Conti, Romanée-Saint-Vivant, Grand Cru, 2020 3800
François Confuron-Gindre, Les Suchots, Premier Cru, 2019 600
Jérôme Chezeaux, Les Chaumes, Premier Cru, 2020 340
Jérôme Chezeaux, Les Suchots, Premier Cru, 2019 425
Michel Gros, 2020 320
Mongeard-Mugneret, En Orveaux, Premier Cru, 2013 400

nuits-saint-georges
Aurélien Verdet, Les Damodes, Premier Cru, 2017 550
David Duband, Aux Thorey, Premier Cru, 2016 385
Domaine Chevillon, Les Cailles, Premier Cru, 2018 500
Domaine Chevillon, Les Vaucrains, Premier Cru, 2018 500
Domaine de l’Arlot, Clos de Forets Saint Georges, Premier Cru, 2021 450
Lucien Le Moine, Les Cailles, Premier Cru, 2014 410
Pierre-Yves Colin-Morey, Aux Boudots, Premier Cru, 2018 520

côte de beaune
Boris Champy, Beaune Vignes Franches, Premier Cru, 2020 235
Boris Champy, Pommard, En Boeuf, 2020 250
Bouchard, Beaune-Grèves, Vigne de l’Enfant Jésus, Premier Cru, 2017 520
Bouchard, Beaune-Grèves, Vigne de l’Enfant Jésus, Premier Cru, 2018 520
Comte Senard, Aloxe-Corton, Les Valozières, Premier Cru, 2017 315
Jean-Claude Ramonet, Bourgogne, Pinot Noir, 2018 215
Michel Lafarge, Volnay, Clos des Chênes, Premier Cru, 2012 1300
Paul Pillot, Chassagne-Montrachet, Rouge Vieilles Vignes, 2021 185
Pierre-Yves Colin-Morey, Volnay, Taillepieds, Premier Cru, 2015 550
Y. Clerget, Volnay, Les Santenots, Premier Cru, 2020 375

bordeaux
st. estèphe
Calon Ségur, 2009 600
Calon Ségur, 2015 450

pauillac
Grand-Puy-Lacoste, 2005 500
Grand-Puy-Lacoste, 2010 400
Grand-Puy-Lacoste, 2012 250
Lafite Rothschild, 2002 2600
Lafite Rothschild, 2010 2800
Lafite Rothschild, 2015 2200
Lynch Bages, 2010 800
Lynch Bages, 2015 500
Pontet-Canet, 2005 650
Pontet-Canet, 2016 500

st. julien
Léoville Poyferré, 2006 400
Talbot, 2010 430

pessac-léognan
Haut-Bailly, 2010 410
Pape Clement, 2009 700
Smith Haut Lafitte, 2009 1050

pomerol
La Conseillante, 2009 850
Vieux Château Certan, 2009 1500

rhône
northern
Clape, Cornas, 2001 950
Domaine Champet, La Viallière, Côte-Rôtie, 2016 250
Domaine Jamet, Côte-Rôtie, 2008 1000
Guillaume Gilles, Cornas, 2019 310
Jean-Luc Colombo, Cornas, Terres Brulées, 2013 220

southern
Beaucastel, Châteauneuf-du-Pape, 2006 450
Fonsalette, Côtes du Rhône, Reserve, 2001 1900
Fonsalette, Côtes du Rhône, Reserve, 2006 1700

other france
Couly-Dutheil, Clos de l’Olive, Chinon, Loire, 1989 225
Mas de Daumas Gasssac, Languedoc, 1990 1030
Pradeaux, Cuvee X, Bandol, 2007 250

international red
Arpepe, Grumello Buon Consiglio, Valtelina Superiore Riserva, Italy, 2009 330
Braida, Bricco dell’Uccellone, Barbera d’Asti, Piedmont, Italy, 2018 250
C.U.N.E., Rioja Viña Real Reserva Especial, Rioja, Spain, 1962 1500
C.U.N.E., Rioja Viña Real Reserva Especial, Rioja, Spain, 1964 1400
C.U.N.E., Rioja Viña Real Reserva Especial, Rioja, Spain, 1966 1300
Elio Altare, Barolo, Piedmont, Italy, 2019 275
Faustino, Rioja Gran Reserva, Rioja, Spain, 2001 400
Franchetti-Passopisciaro, Contrada S, Sicily, Italy, 2020 280
López de Heredia, Rioja Gran Reserva, Viña Tondonia, Rioja, Spain, 2001 420
Mas Martinet, Clos Martinet, Priorat, Spain, 2019 275
Mas Martinet, Els Escurcons, Priorat, Spain, 2019 345
Monteleone, Etna Rosso, Rumex, Sicily, Italy, 2019 200
Remelluri, Rioja Reserva, Rioja, Spain, 2008 225
Ronchi Di Cialla, Schioppettino di Cialla, Friuli, Italy, 1996 300
Tenuta di Trinoro, Palazzi, Tuscany, Italy, 2020 900
Valdicava, Brunello di Montalcino, Tuscany, Italy, 2007 600

pinot noir
usa red
Copain, Kiser ‘En Haut’, Anderson Valley, Mendocino County, 2012, 375ml 120
Copain, Kiser ‘En Haut’, Anderson Valley, Mendocino County, 2013, 375ml 195
Chev., Santa Rita Hills, California, 2020 265
Cirq., Treehouse, Russian River Valley, Sonoma County, California, 2012 850
Cirq., Treehouse, Russian River Valley, Sonoma County, California, 2013 850
Littorai, Cerise Vineyard, Anderson Valley, Mendocino County, California, 2017 500
Littorai, Savoy Vineyard, Anderson Valley, Mendocino County, California, 2021 280
Marcassin, Marcassin Vineyard, Sonoma Coast, California, 2007 2000
Melville, Terraces, Santa Rita Hills, California, 2021 215
Peay, Pomarium, Sonoma Coast, California, 2013 330
Peay, Scallop Shelf, Sonoma Coast, California, 2011 295
Radio-Coteau, Dierke, Sonoma Coast, California, 2015 260
Raen, Sea Field, Fort Ross-Seaview, Sonoma Coast, California, 2020 320
Rhys, Bearwallow Vineyard, Anderson Valley, Mendocino, California, 2017 285
Roar, Garys’ Vineyard, Santa Lucia Highlands, California, 2021 210
The Eyrie Vineyards, South Block, Dundee Hills, Oregon, 2015 500

bordeaux varietals
usa red
Cain, Cain Five, Spring Mountain District, Napa Valley, California, 2008 530
Complant, Beller Vineyard, Mount Veeder, Napa Valley, 2017 275
Corison, Napa Valley, California, 2003 1000
Corison, Napa Valley, California, 2006 800
Dalla Valle, Napa Valley, California, 2012 610
Dalla Valle, Napa Valley, California, 2013 560
Mount Eden, Estate, Santa Cruz Mountains, California, 2014 395
Opus One, Napa Valley, California, 2019 900
Peter Michael, Les Pavots, Knights Valley, Sonoma, California, 2019 495
Ridge, Monte Bello, Santa Cruz Mountains, California, 2000 750
Robert Mondavi, Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon, Napa Valley, 1998 520
Robert Mondavi, Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon, Napa Valley, 1999 480
The Mascot, Napa Valley, California, 2012 415
The Mascot, Napa Valley, California, 2014 495
The Mascot, Napa Valley, California, 2017 385
The Mascot, Napa Valley, California, 2019 38

rhône varietals/other
usa red
Arnot-Roberts, Trousseau Blend, North Coast, California, 2021 135
HdV, Syrah Californio, Hyde Vineyard, Napa Valley, California, 2018 295
Keplinger, Lithic, Amador County, California, 2014 260
Kongsgaard, Syrah, Napa Valley, California, 2020 425
Radio-Coteau, Harrison Grade Syrah, Sonoma Coast, California, 2015 245
Tablas Creek, Esprit de Beaucastel, Paso Robles, California, 2010 230

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Paul Pillot Chassagne Rouge @ $185 will be a decent drink, or LÁrlot Clos des Forets.

Of the rest 2010 GPL @ $400.

It’s a pretty daunting assignment I must say.

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markups are indeed high. if you do not want to lug a bottle with you check out the boris champy beaune 1er cru for $235.

4

Hmmmm, don’t get much for $500 in the Burg selection. GPL 05/10 perhaps if you fancy Bdx. For my own tastes, I would go the LdH Tondonia or Chateau Pradeaux, both of which have some decent age. For a lighter style perhaps, the Monteleone Etna Rosso. Prices definitely in “ouch” territory!

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I would have trouble drinking wine at this establishment. There’s really nothing that qualifies as “reasonable”.

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Pay the $100 corkage - no brainer.

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Just pay the $100

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Same $100 corkage

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Unreasonable Burgundy prices. Corkage $100 is inevitable.

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Markups are ludicrous, and for the most part, the wines are too young to enjoy. Corkage!

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The DRC are only 1.5-2x retail… value?

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Slim pickings indeed.

Rhys Bearwallow looks reasonable, should drink nicely at 7 years.

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The prices for Burgundy on this list seem ridiculous. I would pay the corkage.

But, the most interesting “reasonably” priced wines I see in the Burgundies are:

  1. Jean-Claude Ramonet, Bourgogne, Pinot Noir, 2018 215. Ramonet makes really seductive reds as well as fabulous whites. For this price, you should be getting a red Chassagne-Montrachet premier cru from him, but from the list, I find this to be the interesting.

  2. Another alternative would be the Paul Pillot, Chassagne-Montrachet, Rouge Vieilles Vignes, 2021 185… I recently tried the Pillot villages CM from 2019 and it was quite nice and pretty drinkable. My guess is that the 2021 would be interesting. I find 2021 to be a real “through-back” vintage to an earlier era of lower alcohol wines and the few I have tasted have been quite attractive. Have not had this 2021, however.

  3. The one wine I have actually tasted is the Y. Clerget, Volnay, Les Santenots, Premier Cru, 2020 375. I like Clerget’s Volnays and this one was quite good when I tasted it at the Grand Tasting at the Paulee in 2023 in NYC. Grand Tasting at the Paulee - WINE TALK - WineBerserkers Do note that 2020s are very structured wines and this wine is quite young. I have no idea if it has closed up since I tried it in March 2023.

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pay the corkage

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I’ll chime in and agree with most above…pay the corkage. You can bring something nice from your cellar and pay a fraction of the price. Those prices are painful…I hope the food is once-in-a-lifetime level.

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A premium of over $200 over release price on a $70 bottle is reasonable? Definitely either pay the corkage or drink beer, cocktails, or iced tea.

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That’s a good option. Not Burgundy but probably suited to a Burg palate.

It’s about a 2x markup over current retail, not bad.

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This could be a good add on second bottle. Lighter bodied but probably quite interesting, food friendly, and suited to a Burg palate.

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$500 for a bottle of 2017 Littorai? Oy vey.

The markup on the Raen is only 3x - such a deal!

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Agree though had a friend who purchased and popped a bottle in a restaurant 3-4 months ago who would normally be all over something like this. He enjoyed it but thought it would have benefitted from quite a bit more hair (server slip-up meant they basically Pnp’ed it