That is fair. The producers you mention are all somewhat similar. Although its been awhile since I had a Baltes.
How was the Keller?
Shortly: excellent. Quite a rarity I believe, I saw this bottling being offered only in this vintage. From a subparcel in Kirchspiel, with some similarities to the RR. Licking lime juice off a slab of stone must feel a bit similar, maybe with a hint of rest sugar hidden very far in the back.
But why? Life is too short to open wine your not really into. When i find out I bought stuff I don’t really enjoy I sell it or give it away.
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To keep reminding us, 16 times. 
Well, the winemakers are good, hardworking people and deserve a fair go.
And I happen to be located close to the source which implies some sense of loyalty. Isn’t what’s called tribalism? You instinctively root for the hometown/school/college/national football (hockey, rugby, spelling bee, darts, reindeer racing …) team, and hope for great things, even if deep inside you know better … It is hardcoded in the DNA.
But OK, no more Spaetburgunder negativity from now on, happy thoughts only. Julian Haart Pinot will drop shortly, so it shouldn’t be too difficult.
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Just to be clear then I don’t mind critic of the wines. We all like different things. Your thoughts on the wines are as valid as the rest of us. Positive or negative.
I just wondered why you bothered drinking them if you don’t really like them. You gave a fair answer and it is all fine 
Hi all,
Been following this thread for a while - thanks for all the good advice - I have discovered some really nice wines on the basis of the discussions here.
Lukas Hammelmanns 2021 spätburgunders have just been released in Europe. My initial impression is very positive perhaps slightly lighter body than 19 and 20 but very nice aromatics and fresh acidity.
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Welcome!
Happy that it has helped you discover wines you like. That is what it is all about.
I really liked Hammelmann’s 2021 Rosé. But I often like lighter acidity driven vintages. So no surprise there i guess 
Just saw the first offer for Wasenhaus 2021ers stateside yesterday (may have been others I didn’t see). The market for these here has definitely caught up with my fanaticism for them - it sold out in under 5 minutes.
2 recent tasting notes, also:
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2018 Wasenhaus Spätburgunder: ripping right now. All the vibrance and juiciness that this had on release, plenty of thrilling whole cluster influence intertwined with red fruit, but some level of resolution that makes the whole thing a very compelling package - things have softened up a bit in a very nice way. These can keep going for a while, though anecdotally I had a different bottle of this a few months back that felt a bit longer in the tooth - may have been a one off.
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2021 Enderle & Moll Buntsandstein: I have been sleeping on these wines for far too long. This was a great young bottle, very bright, lean and red-fruited. Some definite stem inclusion here (which for me is a huge draw). I’ve seen these wines get critiqued for showing very “natty” but this tasted clean to me. A rather light-on-its-feet, mineral-driven red.
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Do you mind sharing where since they sold out? If not I understand.
I love Enderle and Moll, The early ones started my love of German Pinot. They went through a rocky period due to some personal type problems. Sven has now left and is doing his own wine and they have a full time cellar master, They are much cleaner and back on track. I loved the 21s I tasted in Germany.
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Not at all - it was at Leon & Son in Brooklyn. They sent out an offer to folks that had supported the wines previously.
I am very encouraged by the 21 I tried and grateful to have more in the cellar!
cool…i might have been on that list 
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Managed to fit in some Spatburgunder study in Detroit this weekend around the Detroit Jazz Festival.
2021 Wasenhaus Spatburgunder - This might be a tad more closed than my first 2021 in Germany but it is still delicious with a great energizing acidity. It was a special moment as I drank this during the J Dilla tribute at the Detroit Jazz festival, standing two feet away from Common on the side of the stage as he was waiting to go on for his portion of tribute performance.
2021 Holger Koch Kaiserstuhl - Spotted this late at night on the shelves of Motor City wine while there for a Jazz fest after-party. Well this is flat out delicious. Just a hint of smokiness, pure vibrant fruit and a joy to drink especially during a jam session led by Karriem Riggins. Perhaps lacking a little structure but who cares it is drinking great now and appears to be $14 in Germany! Sadly none currently listed in the U.S. There was some for $24 but it is gone, I tried to buy a case before posting this note.
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Drunk during a J Dilla tribute and In the presence of Common - any wine will be special but I’m sure it would have been a treat nonetheless as well.
2018 Salwey Kaiserstuhl - This is just a perfect example of what I love about Spätburgunder. It smells beautiful. Has a wonderful high energy acid attack on the front-end, then turns to fruit and then minerality on the end. Its like you take different components of Gamay and Pinot and mix them together. Delicious, satisfying wine that is a whopping $35 in the U.S. I like this so much I ordered more before posting…
There are notes of red summer berries and herbs. But everything feels rather muted and not as expressive as previous 2020’s. It has been open for six hours now and are not moving at all.
If you have any then let them sleep for a while.
Edit: day two shows a darker fruit profile, spice and smoke. It is better but still needs to sleep.
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Two recent Spätburgunders that were both excellent.
2020 Wasenhaus - This is drinking beautifully. It is much more serious / complex than the 2021. Lots of depth and structure and Volnay like spice.
2020 Saalwaechter Alte Reben - This is extremely light but serious at the same time. I loved it on its own, especially with just a little chill, but not as much paired next to the Wasenhaus.
disclaimer: source | material sells the Saalwachter.
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Sounds like it is time to find one in the cellar 
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