German Spatburgunder Master Thread

That can be arranged :wink:

Just remember to keep one of the bottles for a year+. :slightly_smiling_face:

I was thinking exactly the same :joy:. And in my case, shipping a bottle or 2 to NY is not a big deal.

Definitely, even though I can enjoy a wine in its youth, ideally I like to wait until it is 5-6 years old.

Yea don’t wait 5-6 years on these :grin:.
My guess is the prime is 2-3 years after release (we don’t know yet as the first vintage was 2016…).

Probably need the higher end bottlings for extended aging.

I am a buyer!

Robert, I’m super curious, do you think that the Wasenhaus 2021 entry-level Spät is going to hit the US market at U$D120 per bottle? Or not hit the US market at all?

Cheers!
Mariano

No I assume it will be about $50. The demand for Wasenhaus is off the charts in the U.S. so it will be near impossible to get any meaningful quantities. I purchased about 10 cases of 2020s and that was over 10 stores on two coasts. From what I was told at the winery, they lost about 85% of their crop in 2021. Honestly what I wish importers would do and you will hate me for this, is do a one time price increase of 2021s and give the excess back to the domain to help them out as a vintage like 2021 really hurts.

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No hate, it makes total sense!

Cheers!
Mariano

I appreciate that. I think we sometimes we forget how devastating mother nature can be to a small domain. I write this I am reading reports of more hail in Burgundy.

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Vacation time. I am visiting a friend who enjoys Wasenhaus as much as me. So i brought this set.

The 19’s are drinking beautifully right now. All the wines are very reminiscent of each other, but as you step up in level you just get a bit more depth and concentration. But the style is clear.

From a value perspective the basic Spätburgunder is for me amazing. The 2019 is the best bottle I had so far (of the base 19’s) and just shows that it gains with age. Really an aromatic wine that wants to get out of the glass.

Pretty excited about the Bellen in the long run. Just has that extra thing that might become magical.

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From a thread just posted re 4 wines blind tasted at dinner:

2017 DR. HEGER MIMUS IHRINGER WINKELBERG SPATBURGUNDER TROCHEN QUALITATSWIEN BADEN- I’ve been wanting to insert a Spatburgunder into our Pinot Noir theme for some time now and after a few samplings during my recent trip to Amsterdam, I got the added incentive to get it done; I was able to source this bottle from a Southern CA wine shop after getting their recommendation to start here; I did not know what to expect other than a good possibility of generous oak use and the nose of toasted burnt cherry seemed to confirm such; beyond that, it had some nice red raspberry which transitioned into black raspberry all the while sporting the toasty, burnt accent which was joined by a nice streak of spice and clove; I liked it and yet wonder what this will become with some age on it if it can withstand some age.

Cheers,
Blake

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This has been a super fun thread to follow - thanks everyone for the notes and recommendations -

I just love what’s happened with Spatburgunder, enough to take a little trip after the first of the year to visit some of these wineries - right now, I am absolutely in love with the 2019 Spatburgunder ‘Hohen-Sulzen’ from Battenfeld Spanier, just gorgeous, very pretty fruit notes and really bright and alive -

2019 Spatburgunder “Rheinhessen” Hohen-Sulzen…(BATTENFELD SPANIER)

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Thank you, I need to try the Battenfeld.

Need to try it too. Really liked their rieslings early in my wine journey. Haven’t tasted any wines from them for a few years.


I was think that i probably enjoy Durst’s white wines more (which was a bit confusing realization as his alte Portugieser was love at first taste), and then I opened this wine yesterday… WOW.

The first night, if tasted blind I’d guess a very good Montille red without hesitation. On the second night it grew (less smooth tannins), and I wish nothing more than to have at least a second bottled to open +5 years later.

It’s one of the best German Pinot Noir/Spätburgunder I have had, period. Darker berries, a hint of red, together with cherries and strawberries (kept on evolving). Spices, licorice, quite some tannic weight at the moment together with a lovely energetic acidic drive, beautiful balance.

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What vintage is it? It’s a bit to fuzzy for me to make out.

It’s the 2016.

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Is sparkling spätburgunder rosé allowed in this thread?

These just arrived after purchase awhile ago, ridiculously good for under $20.

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Hell Yes!