For those based in EU: Wasenhaus 2021 vintage is available from a few places now. Very little Spätburgunder made, so it is probably going to disappear even faster this year. Just a heads up.
Appreciated. Order in.
Are you buying @ €28.5 / bottle?
Yes
Where? If they ship to Barcelona I’m game!
I was hoping that that was the inflated price and there was another source… this hurts saying as I like German wines a lot in general and also enjoy the Wasenhaus wines, but I find that price hard to justify (for myself). I opened 2016-2018 basis Enderle&Moll some days ago. Quality-wise and direction of those wines are quite similar to Wasenhaus (or perhaps the other way around), and a ~x2 price tag…
Maybe me missing something but can’t help thinking that for an entry level joyful wine that price tag, plus considering the alternatives available at about 30-50% cheaper - it doesn’t makes sense. I start thinking what I can get for that from other regions for that price, which is a lot. Even the door to burgundy just opened in that thought experiment
https://www.weinfurore.de/weingut-wasenhaus-baden
This is where I found and they do, however it seems like a members thing (or rather that you need to be ordering enough wines from them to get access to these), and secondly hopefully you’ll have the shipment send outside of the summer heat.
Ps. Im sure it will start showing up elsewhere but Lasse is right, don’t blink and keep checking in with WS on a daily basis to not miss out.
The entry level Spätburgunder drinks amazingly well a year or so after release and has been a consistent joy for me in the last few vintages. So yes the price is up, but i still have a hard time finding cheaper Pinot i like better. Will be interesting with a colder vintage though.
As much as i like E&M, then they have lacked consistency through vintages and I got burned with the 2017 vintage. The style is also a little different.
I actually think the Lassak i just had would be the biggest “competitor” to Wasenhaus entry level Spätburgunder to me.
It’s a matter of personal taste and preference so no offense intended.
And I would feel the same way if E&M went that direction in terms of price while Wasenhaus kept its price point…
Can’t talk for recent vintages though 2017 is showing quite well at the moment. PnP it was the most enjoyable next to a 2018 and 2016 Liaison had recently. Day 2-3 the 2018 started to show really well (a bit darker fruit profile), as did the 2016 Liaison (best out of the three).
I start finding burgundy at that price bracket that while different is as good in terms of quality (to my mind). And if not limiting oneself to Pinot, then just to mention one example - there are quite a few Barbaresco/Barolo wines around that price level that for me makes a lot more sense. But again just my personal view.
Wasenhaus too expensive at €28
No offense taken. It sure is all about preferences
And i completely agree that there are insane bargains if we look past Pinot. I also buy those, but i like a diverse collection so i need a bit of it all (i own more Nebbiolo and Syrah than Pinot).
For a quaffable Pinot Noir - yes.
Or is this something you’d put down for 10-15 years and the goes off?
I have come to the conclusion that it is not about longvity, but about the peak. It is not a quailty in itself that something can be kept for a long time and constantly improve if the peak isn’t better.
I say this because i have disappointed by so many aged wines… sure some become truly special, but i also think I realised that I prefer many examples younger while they still have that youthful burst. That is a personal preference ofcause.
Wasenhaus Vulkan 2017 is a great example. It certainly aged quicker than expected (quicker than the entry level Spätburgunder in other vintages). So that was a bit disappointing because i had some left when i found out and prefer something else. But i also had a 2017 Vulkan at its absolute peak (for me), which for me was a world class wine. Absolutely amazing.
Which brings me to the Spätburgunder at 28€. After another year or two in bottle or so I actually don’t think it is just a light quaffable wine, but a really good serious Pinot Noir in a light style thats more about balance and subtleties than power.
If we talk other grapes, yes i can find some pretty good Syrah and Cabernet Franc thats cheaper and for me at the same level (if the comparison even make sense). For Nebbiolo not so much.
Valid points and agree with many of them in general.
I also don’t have an age fetish (though admittedly some older wines have given the most transcendental experiences).
There are many wines I just love for the energy, tension and focus, and based on a few 2019 (maybe not fair with that sample size) - this is the space that the entry Wasenhaus bottling ends up in my mind. I love plenty of wines for that very reason, and hold them very dear.
Does it have an abundance of complexity? I’m not sure, didn’t see it so far, and that’s normally what comes with some time.
I’m perhaps spoiled with choices (varieties, regions, producers) when it comes to wines with energy, tension and focus and when thinking of those qualities as key points factors, my reference for when it makes sense price-wise relates to that. Once something starts getting around €30, complexity needs to be part of the equation (to me).
Started writing a long post about complexity, but in the end we agree on most things so lets get back to the Spätburgunder discussion
Thanks! That’s where I bought it from, some cuvées are for members only but the entry-level Spätburgunder was open for everyone with a 3-bottle per customer limit so I ended up getting 3, and yes, no shipping during the summer heat so I’m fine (I won’t be in Barcelona until Aug 31st so no rush for me). With the shipping cost and the extra VAT that I had to pay (21% in Spain instead of 19% in Germany), I ended up paying €37 per bottle, but I guess that it’s the price one has to pay just to know what @LasseK is talking about
Well worth it! I would pay triple for 21s since there is so little of it.
And here I am telling myself that there will be another vintage, and another one after that; no need to stress, lol
It’s well worth a try and good that you’re not discouraged by my remarks in the end it is a very good wine, then we value things differently and have different lens.