Everything Spätburgunder is allowed!
Just popped a 2017 Juliane Eller Spätburgunder Juwel, which I ordered from Lyle after having enjoyed her rieslings. Super transparent ruby color. Not getting much in the nose other than vague purple fruit but the palate has a nice balance of plum, cranberry, and earthy soil tones. Easy drinking and fresh spätburgunder showing little development at this time. My last bottle but can definitely be held for longer. Not bad for $20.
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Enjoying this with my wife on vacation. Wasenhaus is my wifes favourite wines 
A very pretty floral nose. It is light and very enjoyable but as always the weakest from a taste perspective. It is made with 10-20% Pinot Gris, so it makes sense it is lighter. But as I already think Wasenhaus wines are rather light, I don’t find that it improves it really. But that said then it is drinking well. The 2019’s are really awesome at the moment.
2020 was Wasenhaus last vintage of Am Kreuz (i think) as they lost the vineyard.
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As with this and most all other wines in this thread, none or very few are available in the US. Maybe there should be a separate thread for that.
Lets not forget Winebeserkers is global and many participants in this thread are from Europe which I find hugely valuable. Especially as someone who is involved in importing German wine 
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I totally understand. That why I’m suggesting something separate. I’ve spent hours looking up wines only to find they are not available. When I’m in Amsterdam, or other parts of Europe, this thread is helpful.
Or, if one knows a wine they are suggesting is available in the US, it would be great if that was stated.
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There’s plenty of European wine that’s discussed on this board that’s not available in the US, and on the flip side, there’s also no shortage of American wines discussed on this board that are not available in Europe. I don’t think that’s reason enough to generate separate threads. I think 90% of the Spatburgunders discussed on this threat are available in the US. Although quite a few like Wasenhaus are made in small quantities and sell out fast, so it’s sometimes hard for those trying to find some wines via wine-searcher. Any wines in particular you’re looking for Blake?
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I’m relatively new to Spatburgunder and only had a few; so, I’m looking to explore and expand and really have no idea until I get more trials. I do know I’m looking for wines that are more in balance and most of the few I’ve had were very oaky and fruity and I’m not even sure they will balance out with age and what that even translates into in terms of years if so.
I’m open to any and all recs. And thanks for asking and in advance, should you have some suggestions.
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Just another excuse to go to Europe? 
No, not really. I’ve been going to Amsterdam twice a year for 20 years prior to Covid and am now returning with regularity. And, I drink beer mostly when there with a few exceptions and now that I have met some more wine passionate folks, I’ll probably drink more wine on future visits. and Spatburgunder will be a focus.
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Sorry for the Wasenhaus spam, but I am drinking a lot of Wasenhaus during my vacation .
So the 2021. Newest vintage.
Wasenhaus first “colder” vintage. The base Spätburgunder clocks in at 11,5% abv, where all previous vintages has been at 12,5%.
How did they do? Great!
The nose is absolutely captivating! So ethereal with crunchy fruit and floral notes. It is very light, but they have managed to keep the cherry notes and a decent fruit concentration. From other producers i have found they sometimes lean more towards cranberries when they get very light and lose some Pinot Noir DNA.
The taste is good and easy going right now, and this will need a year or two to be at its best.
But the nose is so good that it is worth opening one now just for that.
So get out the big glasses!
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Just checked Wine Searcher and there are only 4 shops in Germany to source any from.
Not surprising, given small production. It is not a problem to source them locally.
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I tried yesterday my first Wasenhaus, the base 2019 spätburgunder. I enjoyed it quite a bit and I am curious, what more age and single vineyard wines can offer… Any guess what would be the sweet spot year to open that 2019 Bellen again?
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Hard to say age wise. As 2016 was the first vintage and there was less wine initially then the data is extremely limited.
In regards to stepping up in the hierarchy, I think it is important to state that you get a lot of the same.
Wrote a bit about it on my IG during my vacation:
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Great to hear that. I have 4 on the way but I won’t be able to get to them until next summer. Looks like it will be even better then!
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Do you know where is Möhlin in the hierarchy?
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It is supposed to be the top wine. Robert have more experience with it than me, so he can probably answer if it is a step above Bellen and Kanzel better than me (only had it once very young).
But from a price perspective:
Spätburgunder → Vulkan → Am Kreuz → Bellen/Kanzel → Mohlin.
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Just a guess but I would expect Kanzel to be up there, also because Henrik in one way or another kept possession of this vineyard (if I understood it correctly).
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Kanzel might very well be up there. Not really sure.
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