Went to 53 and ate at the bar. What beautiful, cozy space for winter! Food is great (Lux PF Changs). An expense account kind of place. $75 corkage.
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Great description. I went for a business lunch and enjoyed it. It is huge. Was surprised at how big the wine list was.
Ah only seeing now there is a downstairs! Thought it was just upstairsā¦ oops
Strikes me as a better place for dinner than lunch for the nighttime vibe
Thereās a place in my suburb that seems to want to be 4 Charles. Menu prices are nearly the same despite being in a boring building that used to be a Vetās office in the burbs. Sorry but Iām not paying $90 for filet mignon in the same room where Fluffy the Poodle got put down!
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Glad to see this got some praise.
I went there last weekend - wonderful pintxos and excellent service. Waitstaff brought over a few extra plates just because they thought we should try them.
Really loved the Gildas - so simple and delicious.
Totally agree. Completely inappropriate reflection of terroir. Fluffy only made it into the local food truckās kebabs.
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Had lunch at Via Carota the other day. A friend had a reservation and so we went. I didnāt realize the amount of hype the restaurant has or how difficult it is to secure a reservation. It was very good and I definitely enjoyed myself. Itās a wonderful room and the service was great. If I had a chance to return I would happily do so. Would I kill myself for a reservation? Not a chance. There is far too much good Italian food in NYC to have to deal with that nonsense.
Also nonsense? The corkage is $100.
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Iām thinking of going to either Pasquale Jones or Charlie Bird next week. Two questions:
Is one more conducive to conversation/less loud than the other?
Which has a more reasonably priced wine list?
Thanks.
4 Charles is one of those places were people of certain type go because it is so exclusive. It is only 10 tables. 40-50% are held for standing regulars reservations similar to Raos. It is what it is. I will say the food is very good and hospitality off the charts for such an exclusive spot. I look forward to going back.
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Interesting. I walk by it constantly and always wonder. Your description almost sounds like China Grill (for those who remember).
Very similar to China grill except with a better (albeit very high priced) wine list.
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Yes! It is a hazy memory, but yes!
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Anyone going to the Riesling tasting at pave today? I have a ticket for the afternoon session that I canāt use.
I am a big fan of Charlie Bird. I donāt think of it as extremely loud but feels good when buzzing. Wine list is relatively well priced. I had a PYCM Bourgogne aligote for $120 or something like that which I enjoyed.
Charlie Bird is also on inKind.
I didnāt find noise to be an issue at Pasquale Jones and Iām quite intolerant of high noise level in restaurants.
The only time I went to Charlie Bird, we sat at one of the outdoor table right by 6th Avenue, and having quite subdued conversation was also not a problem.
Need to do an earlier informal dinner Thursday in/near W 50th. Suggestions?
It is tough out there. Not many Chef and GM combos better than Ray and Sam. Cactus Wren is closing.
How informal? Been a long while but I remember getting decent Thai on the rare occasion I found myself near and needing food. I recently heard BKK is good.
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Had a fun meal here.
It is from the Golden Diner team.
They have a corkage policy. I ordered a Selbach riesling that overdelivered.
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