Downstream Wines

Tom

Your not allowed to talk about Big US wines and im not allowed to talk about weedy pencil shaving barnyard Bdx or burgs, we need to learn our respective places

that is funny

I’ll go first. You are not allowed to post about CT. pileon

hahahahahaha

Sorry couldn’t resist. [cheers.gif]

Lot’s of speculation here, but I can tell you what I like about this project. It acknowledges Zinfandel as a worthy and noble grape. It gives a nod to the heritage wines of California (Zin, Mataro, Petite). It sources from some of California’s best vineyards and highlights the Central Coast. The winemaker is Justin Smith.

All that said, I’m not familiar with Cambie’s magic, the packaging is more of a distraction than an attraction for me and there are great, historic Zinfandels and blends available in the marketplace at affordable prices.

But I am interested to see where this project goes.

I can’t even think of any Zin that costs more than $50-$60 (maybe Turley or Martinelli), much less $100-$200. Would this be a first for a Zin blend at this potential cost?

Last offering of Bedrock Monte Rosso was $60, and that’s from 2017 to the list, retail it can hit $80.

Most Turley is in the $30 - $50 range.

The Turley Hayne Vineyard Zinfandel was $75 to the list, I think. Looks like it is a little over $100 retail.

Where does it say it’s going to be Zin based? I read it as Cambie can pick what he likes and blend them as he likes. I’d tend to think he may use a bit of Zin if it fills part of the wine out, but I don’t think he is a Zin specialist so to say.

According to an earlier post it’s 76% zin
Jackass Hill is usually around $150

The blend is 76% Zinfandel, 8% Syrah, 6% Mataro, 6% Petite Sirah and 4% Tempranillo, and it’s being matured in used wood.

$150 at release or in the secondary market? I was thinking of release price in my comment

Ok thanks, I didn’t realize it was final. I was just going on the original post.

The early Paderewski wines were Zin heavy but I don’t think they even got above 50%

Martinelli Jackass Hill sells from the winery at $125, IIRC. Fruit is sourced from a tiny, very steep plot of ancient 19th vines that produce low yields and require great care and cost to maintain.

I’ve been on the Martinelli mailing list for over 10 years, clamoring for them to sell me a bottle, and they’ve yet to allocate me one (I did hear that I was getting close).

Again, in the middle of all of the speculation, the team is taking a risk and possibly breaking new ground, which I always admire.

I’m not one to indulge in bling, but Zinfandel, after white Zin, Gallo Hearty Burgundy and being ripped out of the ground for the variety du jour for decades- - has earned a little bling. I am excited about this project and wish it well!

thank you for the link, JD really likes it [cheers.gif]

The 13’ was I think 33% Zin, and was my favorite of the Paderewski’s, which is one of my favorite Saxum’s every year.

Thanks for the catch! I didn’t scroll down far enough, but edited my post to add JD’s score.

The most expensive Zin I’d previously heard of was Grgich Hills Miljenko’s Old Vine Zinfandel at $130, but I think 2014 was the last vintage produced.