De Negoce offer (Part 2)

Anticipation :yum:

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Will,
Plenty of contention on this board about the source on OG N.17. The original write up never stated a price, but my thoughts was Cameron is not going to take a $33 bottle at BevMo and hand us a case deal at $144/. Later, Cameron had some ā€œtasting notes and retrospective thoughtsā€ on past lots. He DID mention in those notes that #17 was a ā€œ$75 originalā€ price point. That fit my thoughts, 17 is not a $33 Cabernet from BevMo. Just had one last week and reviewed it.

Cheers, Tim

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I enjoy 400. It’s my only 2020 Napa and I’m happy to have 9 more

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Admire your patience. I’m at the beach sitting on the balcony waiting for a storm to roll over. 244 Sonoma 2018 cab. Bought this as case sale (looks in hindsight like when the dn sale was being completed). Bc of my exprerienxe with other 2018 dn wines, i left it mostly untouched and it’s become quite a wonderful grownup wine. Quite wonderful on pop and pour and even better 24 hour later.

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My wife likes 400…I think it taste like rubber. I opened one up last weekend for her and one of her friends, I couldn’t drink it :sweat_smile:

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Drink og6 right now. 13 a bottle. Pretty decent value. All these wines need 2-3 years my og 1-50 are all excellent and are incredible cellar defenders

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Well, 92s and 93s aren’t great given the source. It still is just good, not great. Just had one the other day.

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#6 was my first purchase. I remember popping the first one takink a small sip before pouring glassses and asking my wife "Well?"and getting an ā€œOhhhh, that’s gooood.ā€

Whatever it was it had an almost Rivers-Marie nose/taste.

She was eventually not a fan of having DN piled in all the non-essential spaces of the house, but I got very little guff about those purchases.

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FWIW, I did buy a bottle of Beaucanon (albeit from the following year) and compared the two and thought they were an exact match. Who knows. This really turned me on to Beaucanon and now I’m a fan. I try to find it when I can.

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Whenever I want to open a young dN, I imagine Tim looking over my shoulder shaking his head in dismay. :joy:

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those scores make it a top 15-20 all time DN release on CT, fwiw…DN scores basically top out around 93-94

should add: most DN wines have a small sample size on CT so not worth putting too much stock in it, especially small differences (e.g. a 91 vs a 92.5 avg score)

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Ive noticed that almost every red blend ive purchased from dN need WAY more nap time than the less expensive but good daily drinkers. A few have done complete 180s with a few years in the bottle.

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Brian,
I knew you’d chime in on this debate my friend :grinning:. So it’s a possibility that, in fact, this was a ā€œPrivate Labelā€ wine from Beaucanon that never made it to final destination due to ā€œcircumstancesā€. My claim is that this is not the $33 Bev Mo wine Cameron schlepped to us at $144/case. Lot 20 being ā€œReserveā€ from a different clone / vineyard.
All the Best, Tim

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Fair points, @Timothy_B_a_l_l_a_r_d, and I hadn’t actually seen your post. Just scrolled up and read it. That makes sense. I should edit my post to say that when I compared the DN 2018 with the Beaucanon 2019, my sense was same wine maker, same terroir. Thanks!

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Totally agree. you would think that posters on this blog would know this and not panic when their freshly bottled wine rolls of the truck, they take a swig and say this stuff sucks

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Mark,
Yes, Only You can prevent Premature Evaluation of that de Negoce wine.

Cheers, Tim

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Yep Tim! You are certainly right about that!

Premature Ejaculation

of Cork
:champagne:

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Back about 40 years ago, I had a small run as a Negociant.
My middle name is (ego) Campbell.
When I was in Healdsburg at Chateau Diana (a Tax Paid Wine Bottling House), I saw this wine and others roll directly off the bottling line and into a waiting truck rapidly bound for Trader Joe’s.
Cabernet and Chardonnay, too!! Go figure….
Different strokes for different folks?

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Scott,
Maybe you should get back in the business and go into competition with Cam and Courtney? I would buy wine from you.

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Thank you, but, Never! Work is a four letter word?
I have been happily retired since 2008 @ age 52.
Roughly 17 years & zero regrets! :blush:
For me: Consuming wine is vastly preferable to producing and/or selling wine.
BTW, I was kinda slightly very poor and started with Zero fortune.
My first winemaking job in 1980 paid $750 per month. $9000/year. Ka-Ching :moneybag:

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