# End of Year 2023 de Négoce Mystery Case
This one has sold out in a day. It will be interesting to see what you got in this Mystery Case. No two alike??
Please Post your findings, Thank You!! 
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Kind of surprised to see these sell out. It’s hard to imagine how this $130 mystery box with no “sticker price” statement (and also the likelihood that it contains someone’s cooked/returned wine) could ever be a good deal compared to the ~ $150 case of stuff I actually wanted and was vetted by this thread, placed on Black Friday.
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Yea. Don’t think we are the target audience for a mystery case offer.maybe people who are sticking their toe in the water. I don’t live in Denver but dN i did and I didnt have so much of the old stuff, I’d totally take up Jonah on his offer for a local mixed case if it was stuff under lot 300. That stuff is good stuff and coming around
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@Robert_M_yers Thanks for the follow up. I think I may have been slightly unclear. Some on this thread have said they wouldn’t pay to store deN wines and I’m sure many of us pay to store “brand name” wines. I’m curious what people would be willing to pay (if anything) to store deN and is it different.
That’s a steal for storage.
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Love that you started this and happy to join in. Mostly find it discouraging being in the SF Peninsula 
I see that and that’s another valid and interesting question.
What’s the least expensive wine that makes sense to cellar especially if you are paying for offsite storage (which is typically more expensive than home storage)?
I cellar inexpensive wines but I have tons of very cool passive cellar space.
Because it doesn’t really fit my situation I’ll let you run with it. I bet a lot of interesting philosophies would emerge.
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What the mystery case sell out tells me is that dN still has a very healthy mailing list audience looking for inexpensive wine. Some post here or read wine forums, most probably do not.
To me this type of mystery case is not unlike the magazine wine clubs, WSJ, others that sell “wines of the world” that are generally bulk wine repackaged specfically for high volume, low cost sales.
What this forum did was latch onto the personal relationship for original owner of dN, @Cameron_Hughes , and Cam gave lots of good feedback on the details of the operation, corks, filtering, etc… along with lots of good banter about the guessing game here, and it was a lot of fun.
That part of the fun is gone, as well as maybe change in sourcing palate picking the wines, but the basic concept of dN will still function. It remains to be seen I think whether it will last years/decades into the future. Same can be said with almost any wine venture, particularly in the new world, imo.
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Does the “Reward” reset on January 1st? I know the points roll forward for one year but for the dollars that go towards the VIP tiers is the question.
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I bit on a mystery case. Was originally worried this would be poor selling bottle shop lots, but “single-digit lots” and unreleased “small cellars” piqued my curiosity. Will report back. Lets hope its not Martin Ray’s blending leftovers 
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What is anyone’s thoughts on the 20% offer Original label wines this weekend. Im assuming there was no interest in these wines that’s why they’re still around. Asking if anyone has tried any and their thoughts on them.
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Weren’t these same wines 30% off the last two weeks on the cyber sale?
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lol. You’re correct. I assume they were.
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Breaking protocol here, but it’s the interweb, right? $55 for $20 offer on a high end Washington Syrah, Walla Walla, but not Rocks of MF, almost guaranteed to be WT Vintners Les Collines, my somewhat educated guess. I’ve bought 3-4 WT Vintners wines through FP Redacted already, and pricing and description matches. Check it out at FullPullwines. com
Hello friends. Today we have the 78th entry in our popular Redacted series, whereby in exchange for redacting the winery name, we’re able to offer the wine at a considerable discount. Number seventy-eight is a special one indeed, perhaps the strongest discount/press combination yet to appear in the series.
[Redacted 78: 2017 Syrah Walla Walla Valley - $54.99 (FPP $19.99)]
First important note: like all the wines in our Redacted series, this one will come with the original winery label intact, so you will learn the producer and the exact wine the moment you pick up the wine or receive your shipment. Now, some notes and clues about this wine:While we’re giving this the more generic WWV designation, it comes entirely from a single Walla Walla vineyard, and that vineyard is printed on the label.
We actually offered this wine once before, in non-Redacted form. Pricing was 54.99/48.99, and I felt perfectly comfortable offering this in the high $40s; the quality has always been high with this winery and this particular wine.
The vineyard involved in today’s wine is a proven, classy Syrah site in the foothills of the Blue Mountains.
Winemaking involves 95% whole-cluster material in the fermentation, then aging in neutral French oak.
I mentioned the strong press for this wine. How strong? How about three reviews in the 93-95pt range. The strongest of those reviews (the 95pt-er), calls the wine “tense and endlessly flavorful,” then calls out a few of those flavors (blackberry, peppercorn, violet, smoke) before wrapping with this note: “it feels elegant and seamless, poised between assertive flavors and delicate structure.” Only one of those three reviews includes a drinking window; it’s 2020-2030, which feels just about right to me.
This kicks off with a fresh, appealing nose, an admixture of bright red fruits (cherry, raspberry, pomegranate) complemented by peony and pine-bough topnotes above mineral and lightly meaty bass notes. The palate is texturally gorgeous, seamless and silky and conveying more density than you’d expect at its modest weight (13.8% listed alc). The textural polish, the bottle-aged complexity, the pinpoint balance of primary and tertiary elements; all suggest a wine near peak-of-peak. What a time for a discount, but that’s the wine trade for you.
To order this wine, [click here]
Please limit order requests to 12 bottles, and we’ll do our best to fulfill all requests, with allocations coming Tuesday at 9am. The wine is in the warehouse and available for immediate post-allocation pickup, or for shipping during the next temperature-appropriate shipping window.
Regards,
Team Full Pull®
2019 Les Collines Vineyard Syrah || W.T. Vintners (wtvintners.com)
*Disclaimer: I have no vested interest in Full Pull other than being a fan and buyer since 2009, and have contributed lots of $$$ to Damn Paul Zittarelli’s childrens’ college fund.
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Clicked on the link Chris, Can I order a case on you and have it delivered to my address? LOL.
All the Best,
Cheers, Tim
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Sure! You are probably a better guesser at my log in e-mail and password than I am! 
Wait! Someone did add 12 bottles to my request… removing that link now!
I’ll let it ride but likely will ask FP to remove that order. I had already requested 6 bottles before posting here. Full Pull’s system is an allocation formula based on a bunch of variables, so buyers not guaranteed to get everything asked for.
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Last night, received Fed Ex alert for a de Negoce delivery, email shortly after. Black Friday Offer Lot 416 Eola-Amity Hills Pinot Noir being shipped to me. That was fast by de Negoce standards,
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Full Pull uses personalized links, so clicking on that gave us all the ability to order to your account
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Yep! 
I corrected that I think… lessons learned from playing too loose on the interwebs! Worst case scenario I get more wine!
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Personalized Mystery Case Contents:
40 Diamond Mountain Cabernet Sauvignon
49 2018 Alexander Valley Cabernet Sauvignon
78 2018 Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon
80 2018 Napa Valley “Reserve” Cabernet Sauvignon
119 2018 Chalk Hill Syrah
219 2019 Santa Ynez Grenache
208 2019 Mendocino County Pinot Blanc
249 2019 Russian River Valley Pinot Noir
263 2020 Collio Pinot Grigio Italy
323 2020 Langhe Nebbiolo
328 2020 Sonoma County Chardonnay
333 2021 IGT Terre Siciliane Nerello Mascalese Rose
Some solid value - I think all but three had a higher per-bottle price on their futures offering. No single-lot or original label however…
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