Celebrating the new WineBerserkers overhaul this week with our Fearless Leader with a night on the town

Given the price and service level of Japanese restaurants in NYC, if Michelin loved Japanese things, they’d dwarf French restaurants in terms of Michelin stars. Omakase has replaced steak as the power meal ages ago, and NYC has seemingly imported every top chef from Japan who’s willing to leave by paying them tons of money (which leads to astronomical pricing for omakase). This isn’t even including other Asian cuisines, where Michelin reviews seemingly throw darts at a board.

We’re getting far afield here, but I’ve listened to the owners of some of these restaurants complain about what they need to do just to earn one star when the French restaurants follow a simple model to earn their stars.

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Michelin cares about service and consistency as much as anything else. The service component especially leads to some slightly bizarre results when done poorly - it becomes an end to itself.

I do agree wine is mostly irrelevant to them.

I agree with your distinction between the Michelin treatment of Japanese chefs cooking French/fusion cuisine v high end Japanese cuisine in Paris. Michelin treats the former poorly compared to the latter. The former are also among my Paris favorites.

Wow, LA has only one more Michelin starred restaurant than Washington, DC (where only 1/24 is Japanese by the way)?

I guess that’s all anyone needs to know about LA dining.

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Only the second year. I think it’s gonna jump quite a bit when they release later this month/next month.

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One would hope so. The LA metro area has 3 times the population (and way more people throwing around money) of the DC metro area.

Back when Hayato first opened I passed on a resie because I wanted my sister to come with her partner and they weren’t available. Now I cannot get a resie, so any advice is appreciated! Maybe you just have to be a long-time customer to get in given the small number of seats they have.

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Shoot for weekdays. Parties of 1-2. Right when reservations release. That’s the best tip!

I can’t comment about Asia generally or Japan specifically, but in my opinion, Michelin stars become less relevant the further one is away from France, becoming useless (or close to) by the time it comes to California.

Uh, no. LA is much more than Michelin star chasers.

Michelin only covers a tiny slice of what is the greatest food city in the United States.

OK, lace up the gloves … :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

NYC? San Francisco?

City of Angels.

I’m surprised the Enfers didn’t open up for you, how long did you guys sit with it? and how much decant time?

I definitely want to try that Roises 60mo at some point. Was that the clear winner between the two on the night?

We decanted it when we arrived at 6:30. Drank over the course of a few hours. Roises was the clear winner to all of us.

Definitely not San Francisco, or even the broader Bay Area, but I agree NYC >> LA

I think it’s been too long since you’ve visited LA unless all you want is $$$-$$$$$ dining

I was hoping to get into Hayato this last trip but I did not plan sushi night far enough in advance. Thankfully I was able to get into Nozawa Bar and had a great meal there. Hayato for sure next trip.

Hayato is not a sushi restaurant so you made the right choice :smiley:

Ha touche

I’ll give you a shout one of these days; it’s indeed been too long

Next time I will plan traditional Japanese night well in advance.

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