Sometimes for young GCs. I usually use the Liberte for WB though personally.
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Just ordered a pair of Grassl Cru, am excited to try out! Currently have Zalto Universal (for whites), Josephine No. 3 (my favorite for most Reds), Spiegelau Definition Burgundy (Burgundy/Pinot but never has excited me so rarely use), and Gabriel-Glas StandArt (for everyday).
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Now I will break one tonight but I have been working off the same Zalto Bordeaux glasses for years. Started with 8 and several years later I have 5 left. Very pleased with the durability. And those are my preferred glass for Burgs, not the Burgundy glass.
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What is your max price per glass? Berserkers tend to have wildly different definitions of bank-breaking, in my experience.
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Yes. I also use them for Chardonnay.
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Yes. I use them for a lot of wines, White/Red Burg, other Chards/Pinots, Piedmont wines of all types, and many Champagnes.
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Spiegelau Definition stems are excellent. Even lighter than Zaltos for the Burgs (15g less/stem), identical shape. I mistook it for a Zalto in a restaurant in Amsterdam and have since purchased them for home. Canāt distinguish between them in my cabinets. The Bordeaux stems are great also.
1/3rd of the the price of a Zalto Burg up here.
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Dimension or Definition?
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Wayfair is out of the Grassl crus until next December (!?):
But Amazon says they can deliver in a couple of days.
Just order 2 from Amazon couple days ago and they are already shipped and should be delivered Monday.
Iām sure Chris would appreciate anyone from this forum buying direct from his website at https://cjfselections.com/ and saving him the 30% Amazon cut.
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Makes total sense, my Badā¦if I order more after trying these will go to direct siteā¦
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Chris has said that many burgundy winemakers are using the Grassl Liberte (Dujsc for example)
I have the cru but bought the liberte and am very happy.
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Definition. Edited accordingly.
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Hello! Thanks for the kind words on the glass
Yep. Pricing stinks. Not pleased. And itās all driven by the basis. Covid, nat gas, transport on oceans, and then to you. The whole chain is painful. Our packaging costs are up 75%!
Keep in mind we do something unique. We do strongly recommend you register your purchases, though what follows doesnāt require it.
For every glass you buy, if you have a tragedy, and at $63-$65 a glass, it is a tragedy, we replace at wholesale ($40 or so).
We donāt want a broken glass to be this damaging to your wallet or enjoyment. So we are trying to maintain a satisfaction level to the best of our ability to remain open.
We have had a great year with places like Atelier Crenn and Addison moving to the glass in the US.
To the use; generally speaking we have found winemakers in Burgundy who focus on white wines actually use the LibertƩ. The Cru gets traction with red burgundy and Italians.
That said, try your wines from different glasses. Frequently. There is no proscriptive answer here folks. Especially since some of us like fruit and others structure and so on.
As always, we are continually humbled by the support and praise here. So if you have a question, concern, issue, or need, reach out. -Chris
*BTW the VYCE glass we brought out this year is the same material as the Grassl. Same foundry. The stemless May look more narrow than youād expect. But try wines in it if you have some. We went through a lot of revisions to choose that glass. I love my wine in it. You may too. And at $12 and an even more generous replacement concept, give it a try.
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As you know I bought a few cases of this glass recently for party use. I agree itās so much better than most glasses at the price! Iām take it every day in a restaurant type setting.
At the same time I canāt put down my Cru or Liberte for my Red and White Burg needs on a daily basis. They are so far above anyone else on the market.
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I bought Grassl Cru just because the responses were so enthusiastic. More than I planned to spend but life is getting shorter each day.
I think it would be fun doing a blind tasting of the same wine from 5 different stems.
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I can wholeheartedly endorse the VYCE stemless. I normally just donāt like stemless, aesthetically and functionally. Chris ran the Berserker day and gave away a couple of these and single old fashioned. After my experience with the āfreeā glass I ordered enough to have six of each. Use them now most nights and my daughter loves the stemless for all her drinks (non-alcoholic as she isnāt much of a wine drinker) She says theyāre āfancy.ā I probably have 100+ Riedels - about half Somms and half Vinum, about 4 complete 8 place settings of Waterford Lizmore, and 50+ rolled rim machine made cheapies so the last thing I needed was more wine glassesā¦
Continue to be a big fan of the Sensory glass designed by Conterno. Have one full of Bertheau Chambolle as I type this, in fact. For me, if they were 10% or so smaller they would really be the perfect glass.
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Which Chambolle vintage?
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