Posting this in wine talk as the transaction didn’t occur in commerce corner, but feel free to move.
I posted in the Tidings thread that I wasn’t so sure about the shipping costs being worth it for me. Daniel offered to buy my allocation so I sold it to him and he Venmo’ed me promptly via a Goods and Services transaction. An hour later he said his wishlist got granted so he wanted a refund. I said I’d ask Tidings, but then thought better of it and said he could resell the wine in CC and I’d be happy to change the address.
He’s been badgering me nonstop that I should do him a favor and just cancel my order and refund him. He’s called the winemaker about me refunding him and now he’s filed a Venmo claim against me because he hasn’t received his wine yet. Avoid this guy at all costs.
He was supposed to have it cancelled then changed his mind because he didn’t want to lose a future allocation.
All that had to be done was let the winery cancel the order and have him Venmo me back.
I really don’t think he would have lost a future allocation in the first place because I believe he ordered on the first release (could be wrong though).
I didn’t want to inconvenience the winemaker. I’m also not a Target offering returns on purchases when people change their minds. I was doing a board member a favor.
My take from what has been shared: Daniel bought the wine from Rajesh and sent the money, so it’s Daniel’s. Rajesh doesn’t need to cancel the order and risk losing a future allocation. Daniel needs to figure our what to do with the wine, not Rajesh.
Daniel Walsh sounds like’s he running the standard Venmo refund scam that one sees all the time on FB Marketplace, Craigslist, etc. It’s pretty routine - for those not familiar the Venmo payment comes from a connected account (bank,card, etc.) fraudulently accessed, and ends up getting reversed by Venmo later on. But the ‘refund’ that the payment recipient voluntarily made does not have that ability since it was sent under a different rule set. Just block the guy and move on. I’m putting him on ignore going forward (where he can join Gordon). One ‘tell’ of the scammers is how they won’t pay for memberships and hype their faith in the profile, where its free.
Word is your bond. There’s no take-backsies. The icing on the cake is calling the winery and reporting OP (who now also has a Venmo red flag too). This is why we have reference checks.
You requested the purchase , he bought it for you, and you sent him the money. You own these wines. You don’t get your money back in Vegas, and, at least here, you get to keep the wines. Your best opttion is canceling your order, thatt impacts you, and only you. Definite CC ban!