Armagnac and Cognac, buy now.

For those who haven’t gotten into artisanal producers of these brandies yet, do it now.

You know how people talk about the good old days of burgundy or bourbon but didn’t know they were the good old days at the time? Well, these are the good old days (golden age) of brandy. In 10-20 years when these bottles are 10-100x as expensive you’ll be glad you did.

Some things to try:

Armagnac:

Laberdolive: the top producer in Armagnac and probably in all brandy. Expensive but worth every penny.

L’encantada:

The XO and tattoo are fun bottles, single cask is where it’s at for maximum impact, but definitely read reviews before buying.

Dartigalongue
Barallion
Ravignan
Briat
Labaude/Delord, more mass market

Cognac:

Jean Luc Pasquet - family owned, amazing offerings
Normandin-Mercier: perhaps my favorite brandy producer, just fantastic
Vallein-Terciner: lots of fantastic offerings.

Buy now, thank me later.

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This post is a few years too late.

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Nah there’s still excellent value on phenomenal bottles.

https://www.finedrams.com/lencantada-domaine-le-freche-1990-armagnac-cask-48.html

31 year old single cask selection for $120, how much is 30 year old whisky right now from a good producer?

Being 31 years old doesn’t make it amazing. And L’Encantada isn’t a producer, they are a bottler. Their well is drying up and there are more misses than hits these days. Sure, there is a gem now and again, but nothing like the picks coming out 3-5 years ago. Besides, L’Encantada and others know what they have. Their pricing has gone up 2-3x what it was for normal retail.

La freche is a good producer, not l’encantada.

I’ve been buying Armagnac and cognac for about 6-7 years and have not really noticed that the prices have increased significantly.

If you’re talking about the early Lous pibous stuff, I agree that some of those bottles are better than some of the newer stuff coming out for people into malternatives. The XO bottles are still a great value and all 3 were around 80 on release.

Laberdolive hasn’t gone up in price appreciably and is a cut above.

I think cognac is where I’m most excited about artisanal producers.

There are way more options now than there were 4-5 years ago, imo. Prices are going to go up… a LOT.

You have people like that douchebag raj bhatka and his Islay finished Armagnac pushing the stuff now.

What do you consider the sweet spot from each producer?

Ok. I’ll bite. I know zero about the years. I’d guess because distilled the years matter less? Tell me what years to buy, what to avoid, and I’ll buy a couple of cases of assorted Laberdolive. I like ‘The Best’!
I can buy in the US and London if there are some preferred merchants? In the US, seems to be D+M, Woodland Hills and Blackwells.

From pasquet:

This will give you a good sense of house style.
https://the-undergroundbottle-shop.myshopify.com/products/84

Couple more premium offerings.

https://m.klwines.com/p/i?i=1568475&utm_medium=Retail&utm_source=WineSearcher

https://www.amantivino.com/spirits/Jean-Luc-Pasquet-Cognac-Grande-Champagne-XO-Rare-w959092893

Normandin Mercier:

Couple blends which are superb.

https://www.finedrams.com/normandin-mercier-la-peraudiere-grande-champagne-cognac.html

https://www.finedrams.com/normandin-mercier-xo-grande-champagne-cognac.html

Incredible value from petite champagne:

https://www.finedrams.com/normandin-mercier-millesime-2011-petite-champagne-cognac.html

Amazing bottlings:

https://www.finedrams.com/normandin-mercier-lot-80-grande-champagne-cognac-cask-3711-legacy-brandy.html

https://www.finedrams.com/normandin-mercier-millesime-1976-petite-champagne-cognac.html

https://www.finedrams.com/normandin-mercier-tres-vieille-grande-champagne-cognac.html

For VT there are a ton of single cask offerings. This is a good overall look at the estate of 40-100 year age. If you can find one of the through the grapevine bottlings they are great too.

https://www.bassins.com/spirits_detail.php?id=88733

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For moderate aged laberdolive 76, 79 and 86 are great vintages. There are much older bottlings which are wonderful but much more expensive. The bottlings from the 90s like 98 are great as well.

TY, I’ll take a punt. For the older bottlings, looks like there’s a few places that ship within France, I’ll be in Normandy and Paris in the Fall. For the older bottlings, which years do you think are best? I’ll also look for those. TY!

Blackwells is a good source in the us; I don’t have much experience with older vintages; William Kelley may have more. The ones I’ve had have been superb but at the very end of very long wine dinners so no formal notes.

Great thread!

Just opened a bottle of Tesseron lot 29. I am no expert, but it is extraordinary, with a finish that lingers into minutes.

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Tesseron is great, although I wouldn’t really consider it a small artisanal producer. The 29 is a very good brandy. If you like the complexity of that blend, normandin mercier tres vielle grande champagne is a blend of 100 year old minimum, and what seems like more like 120-140 year old.

https://youtu.be/KaHi_vrEsIE

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Bouju is good. I bought a bottle of the royal brut de fut from k&l awhile back and it was delicious

What do people think of Maison Surrenne Cognac. It is another bottler like L’encantada.

Apparently they’re part of germain-robin.

Reviews I found with a quick search on SBDG have been underwhelming.

https://plebyak.blogspot.com/2018/05/maison-surrenne-tonneau-no1-40-bottled.html?fbclid=IwAR2XRnB72GbNbtvvRS9BxWAK85gbDUFbW89LXQKJg-TD0QVVlsd54rWk3NA&m=1

In some of the things I have tried, there might be more wood than I care for (25 year Camut for example).


Of your list above, any comments on which are on the less woody side?

Normandin mercier; if you look at the video I posted above it’s 100+ years old and he comments it’s not particularly woody.