A difference i've noticed between even good quality villages and 1st cru

That’s a good question.

I will perhaps not write too detailed about Nebbiolo wines, however many! Sandri is notorious for keeping and pouring open bottles in his winery - we’re not talking about days… The Nebbiolos and Dolcetto hold up. Nada Fiorenzo and Colla (from the 90s, decanted or PnP), Cavallotto LN/Freisa. Principiano’s wines. Alto Piemonte wines like Le Piane (older from 90s decanted), Colombera & Garella.

A few that have deteriorates more than ones (not necessarily in every vintage) - Burlotto, Ca del Baio, Vietti, La ca Nova…

Sangiovese - many CC from the likes of Caparsa, Istine, Castell’in Villa rarely deteriorates the next day,

Foradori’s Teraldego, the 2016 Sgarzon was one of my WsOTY ( WsOTY -- 2023 Edition and your Discovery of the Year--TABULATIONS COMPLETE - #164 by Mikael_OB ) - PnP, should have decanted… “To me this, after the funk and I don’t know what blew off on the second night is the best Foradori wine. It knocked me out of my socks and I cursed myself for pouring two large pours the first night.”

Ronchi di Cialla’s Schioppettino, well basically all their red wines (and many white). Refosco and Teran wines in general often keep powering on.

I mentioned Baudry - the 2013 La Croix Boissée (drank it recently), also the 2014 le Domaine (2016) - better on day two when the bret was not detectable on the second day and thought it was a very nice wine for the price. Happy to drink the Grézeaux over a few days from memory.

Also think Eric Texier’s wines often either improves or does not deteriorate by day two, like a 2013 Eric Texier Côtes du Rhône Saint-Julien-en-Saint-Alban (drank 2024 PnP) - “Getting better by the day open (3rd night). Violets, darker fruits, freshness and acidity with grippy tannins. Sapidity, meatiness. Long finish.”.

PN / Spatburgunder:

  • I mentioned Roty and Lecheneaut (posted about them here in 2021 Burgundy - Lecheneaut & Roty ), they both held up well developed, and switch taste profiles (from darker to red and the other developed the other way around). PnP. They were perhaps the exceptions for PN… Bart stands out from memory for deteriorating and I believe the collective wisdom about PN here is reasonable.
  • Enderle & Moll PnP usually don’t deteriorate by day 2 (also rarely improves).
  • Mobitz’s wines (red/white) last without deteriorate, same goes for Ziereisen’sd PNs.

Chardonnay:

Burgundy/Chablis Bessin (-Tremblay) - believe most were PnP:

  • - 2020 Domaine Bessin-Tremblay Chablis Vieilles Vignes (drank in 2024): Razor sharp, this is really nice and best on day 3. Salinity, lemon and what a terrific drive and tension. Some smokiness. Long electrifying finish. Wish I bought more…
  • 2019 Bessin Chablis 1er Cru Montmains (drank in 2024-6): Tight. Chalky, lemon and almond. Acidic and a very long finish. Pow (like a text box in popping up in old batman series).
  • 2015 Jean-Claude Bessin Chablis 1er Cru Fourchaume (drank in 2021): Very tight the first night, much more enjoyable the second night. Lemon, quite structured, good acidity. Nothing overripe here. Minerality, long salivating finish that just keeps on. Almost a kind of smokiness. Keeps on being the same over 3 days

2023 Jean-Marc Vincent Santenay Les Vignes Denses (decanted) - From memory this wine far from deteriorated by day two (loved this).

Agree with Riesling (and other white) wines, at the very least drink as well on the following days. I loved how a Falkenstein left in the fridge for weeks showed - much related to the texture (silkiness). Recall that Lars liked the spritz in the beginning :slight_smile:

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