It’s definitely not strictly enforced.
Nope that’s not the one I’m talking about. That one is from back in June. This Griotte discussion happened in October I think. I remember I had been grouse hunting with my dog earlier in the day. Can’t find it on Google either by searching for “WineBerserkers + Griotte Chambertin”
Metayage: a producer “rents” a vineyard - and the owner gets half of the bottled wine
Fermage: “rented” vineyard, the owner gets paid in cash
Both counts as “Domaine-produced”
E.g. DRC RSV from 1966 to 1987 from Marey-Monge
I think the discussion was on the red burgundy vintages thread. Btw you were looking for this post
a couple weeks ago, which is also in that thread.
Thanks for that little vintage chart! I was hoping to find that again.
But, am I wrong here, a dedicated Griotte Chambertin thread, titled as such would surely be brighter in the search results, whether it be on Google or the internal search engine. Maybe you are right, maybe that discussion is buried among the 2000+ postings on ‘Recent Red Burgundy Experiences’ — one way of the other I’m unable to find it using Google or the internal search function.
It would make your search easier, yes. But if everyone followed that logic, we could end up with a massive proliferation of narrowly focused threads, most of which would be interesting to only a small subset of people here. Some of that is inevitable, but I don’t think most users want to see a dedicated thread for every vintage, every cru, every vinyard across every country.
As I said earlier, using the search function on this site, I was able to find very little info on the 2012 vintage (who knows though, maybe there’s been very little discussion on it at all), for most other vintages though, when I search for ‘XXXX year + red burgundy vintage’, I can find one or more threads (sheesh, even 2013 has two!) titled as such. I have found found those threads to be interesting and helpful and I am happy to be able to find them in this manner.
I would say the same thing with most Grand Crus, they have their own dedicated thread (the Mazis Chambertin one, for example, is great). I have also found those to be well attended, loaded with info and helpful. What do you suggest as a guideline for when to open a new thread or to insert such a discussion in a more general thread? At a certain point when the general thread has 1000’s of postings does it become unwieldy, difficult to navigate or search?
I don’t know that there needs to be a criteria. So far, people seem to have been pretty moderate and the state of things is fine with using one’s judgement. I think the problem would start when someone decided there SHOULD be a thread for every vintage or cru and started creating them because he thinks they should be there.
I think you shouldn’t be starting new threads for every vintage. If you have a question, ask it in the vintages thread. Reviving all these dead threads, especially to ask about wines that aren’t even being discussed in that particular thread is also extremely unhelpful.
Help me understand. I happened to be reading the 2008 burg thread from 2022, which was easily found using the search function, and I came across Robert Panzer talking about 2008 Thibault LB Corton Renardes. I mentioned that I have a couple of 2009’s, excited to try them. I certainly didn’t say that to recussitste a dead thread, just a positive comment on that little subject of the Corton. As a collateral effect of my little comment, there’s since been a bunch of focused, useful, interesting discussion (now more than three years later) on the topic of 2008 burgs. What’s the harm (or ‘extremely unhelpful’, as you say)? Serious question.
the post isn’t even about the wine you asked about, and in fact no one even commented on the wine you described; had you posted about it in the burgundy vintages thread which more people actually read, you may have gotten more discussion about it.
People bump old threads from time to time, it happens, but you do it multiple times every day.
I have been advised by you and others to not put up new threads before using the search function and learning that there may very well be an an existing thread (or multiple) about the same topic. I get it and always do that now. But now are you saying too that if I find that old topic thread that I was looking for (which might now be years old) to not participate in it (‘bump it’, as you say), despite how much more focused, up-to-date, highly relevant discussion that might ensue (à la the 2008 thread that’s quite active now again)? Again, what’s the harm?
You can do whatever you want, but it’s annoying and creates additional clutter on the board. Other people can do whatever they want but I’m not going to participate in future discussion on other such threads.
I had no idea.
I certainly would.
This would have been a great thread on 2012 vintage if not for the postings saying they don’t like a dedicated 2012 vintage thread
The objection was to starting a thread for every vintage and vineyard, not to the existance of active threads. You are free to disagree, of course.
C’mon no one is starting a thread for every vintage and vineyard permutation. No one should be objecting to what other people want to talk about either - that is worse for the board IMHO.
And some of us think starting a dedicated thread for every burg vintage would be worse for the board. ![]()
If you disagree, then you don’t need to participate and certainly don’t need to hijack threads for that purpose (which has inadvertently happened in this case).
It is implausible that the few can decide who, what and when can be posted on the Board, and where that line is drawn on what constitutes a separate thread. More than a few have left this Board for that reason, and its not a good thing.
Paul, me or anyone else does not need or want to be shamed for discussing 2012 burgundies. Or 2015 burgundies. Or who made the best CSD in 2016.
Where is my popcorn… this should be great to watch! ![]()