1985 Bordeaux 40th anniversary dinner

At Piccolino restaurant in London EC2, 4/17/25

2008 Moet Chandon

This has a recognisable mass produced Moet Chandon signature. It is a crowd pleasing formulaic style but I found it a little bit on the sweet side for my liking. Very different creature to the much more serious and brooding 2008 DP. Looked at uncritically it is tasty, but one glass is more than sufficient…88pts

On to the main event of 1985 clarets. One theme that emerged was the consistency of these wines (apart from the two faulty ones). My scores for the sound 1985s were tightly bounded in a 92-94 pt range. It was another good showing for the 1985 vintage and again I was surprised by the youthful vigour of some of these wines (Gruaud Larose and the two Leovilles), while some of the others were approaching the end of their arc of maturity (e.g., Pape Clement, La Lagune and Haut Batailley).

F1

DDC

Stemmy nose with ash notes; not a typically demonstrative graves nose. On the palate initially rather svelte and classy with an impressive finish. But it evolves and drops off in the glass …. and then starts to improve again. It is enigmatic and somewhat of a chameleon, but an interesting DDC…92 pts

Pape Clement

In magnum. Much more exuberant and expressive graves nose with alluring menthol overtones. Ostensibly really delicious and a point, though a bit obvious and not the last word in complexity … and not as good as a superb bottle of the 1996 recently; but it delivers a lot of love…92 pts

Rauzan Segla

Relatively subdued entry, but some trademark Margaux floral notes, a lovely mouthfeel, and a superb finish. Neat and tidy, light on its feet, and nuanced, this wine just exudes finesse and is a bit classier than its two graves flight mates. A super bottle…94 pts…we often comment on the estates which really had a purple patch in the 1980s - Pichon Lalande and Gruaud Larose of course - but one which is less often mentioned is Rauzan Segla.

F2

Gruaud Larose

This wine was in superb condition for a 40 year old. It was noticeably more structured than anything in the first flight. I didn’t love this as much as some others around the table, however. Maybe because it seemed to lack a bit of grace and charm that is a hallmark of this vintage…but still, overall, a strong showing…92 pts

Lagrange

I expected this to play second fiddle to the Gruaud but it didn’t. A very different wine, it is rounder and more inviting and beautifully resolved. It was ripe, tasty and delicious. Someone on the table said ‘fudge’ and I got that too, so a slight lack focus perhaps marred an otherwise impressive display…92 pts

F3

Leoville Barton

Yet another one excellent bottle of this quintessential claret. Like the Gruaud and its flight mate Leoville Lascases, this had an impressive structure and energy pointing to many more years of high level drinking. At the same time the component parts are well integrated with classical cassis, cedar and cigar box notes…94 pts

Leoville Lascases

I have been lucky enough to try this wine well over a dozen times and I am coming to the view that it probably needs more time. This bottle, while impressive, reinforced my impression that there is more to come here. Last night’s bottle was not as brilliant or as delicious am ex-chateau Latour d-mag last Saturday, when the conventional wisdom is that LLC is the better wine…on last night’s showing 94 pts…I have had more enjoyable bottles of this and I would rather drink the 1988 today and leave the 1985 for a few years.

F4

Lynch Bages

A very good bottle of 1985 Lynch Bages but not a scintillating bottle - like the brace we had a couple of years ago at Noizé restaurant (one on each table) - but much better than some of the greener examples one can encounter. This was highly pleasurable Pauillac and more open knit and fun than either of the Leovilles in the previous flight…94 pts

Haut Batailley

Some dark muttering from across the other side of the table that this might be corked, which turned out not to be the case. Like the Lynch recognisably Pauillac, lighter and with less stuffing, this was nevertheless a likeable, charming and somewhat rustic mature Pauillac. If mature, old-fashioned left bank claret floats your boat this really delivers…92 pts

La Lagune

A late entrant and again questions were raised as to its integrity and soundness. Like the Haut Batailley open and lose knit, but charming and no more than medium-bodied with some attractive edgy menthol notes…like the HB very enjoyable even if there were ultimately better wines on the table…92 pts

Pontet Canet

This was destined to be the weak link in the line up because in those days Pontet Canet was more akin to a cru bourgeois than a classed (fifth) growth. I had a little bet to myself that this wine would be k-nackered. Which proved to be the case. Maderized …and corked too NR

Montrose

Opened as a back-up this was also corked unfortunately

Lafaurie Peyraguey 2007

Absolutely superb…I would say 94 pts

Footnote: 1985 Chateau Latour, double magnum, released from the Chateau in 2025 to celebrate my friend Jono’s 40th, 4/12/25.

To say that the wine was pristine would be an understatement. Likewise to say it was in the perfect spot would be also an understatement. This wine had the poise, majesty, gravitas and imprimatur of a fully mature Latour, with a gorgeous, medium-bodied and seductive attack of ripe berry fruit, with cigar box, tobacco and cedar notes. It has such supreme elegance and effortless refinement and grace, with a tad still of residual grippy tension…97 pts…even though Latour has sometimes been seen to have been behind some its first growth rivals in this vintage this is right up there with the best experiences of the 1985 vintage I have had.

Thursday’s line up (ex-Latour)

Second pour of Latour - the beauty of d-mags

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Wowzers, that’s a great night. I am a big fan of the 85s, like most of us, and they’re certainly in a great spot still by and large.

The best 85 I’ve had through the years has been the La Mission Haut Brion, which Chris B has brought 4-5 times to various Bordeaux nights.

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Also, the 82-86 patch at Rausan Segla (arguably the 88-90 should be included) was a magical run, but those vintages of R-S are impossible to find anymore in the States at anything resembling an attractive price. Same for the 85 L. Barton.

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One of the best wines I ever had was an 85 Canon at a strip club in Vegas in 2000 … back when I used to do wild and crazy things like drink Bordeaux! :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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May I ask why almost every wine has got 92 or 94 points?
:thinking:

It is very simple Paul - it is not rocket science

It is because they did

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Love the vintage. Opened an 1985 Magdelaine last week…this was really in a great place, perfectly mature with terrific black fruit presence and a firm but not imposing backbone.

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Venue options aside, I’m a big fan of the 85 Canon (though my bottles have had a regrettably high TCA rate), still going strong. Another big 85 overachiever is the Beychevelle.

Ian, I have had 3-4 bottles of the 85 La Lagune over the last few years and they’re still terrific although undoubtedly 100% mature. I’m still a big fan and they can punch way above their weight.

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As I’ve said before, the 1985s are the wines to drink while you’re waiting for your 1986s… and always will be :wink:

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We need to do 1985 vs 1986 Pichon Lalande. Based on my recent-ish bottles, PLL might make you eat (drink??) those words. Could add an ‘89 for grins.

Not a fan of 85 Pichon Lalande, a bit herbal - 86 is much better, and also 85 Gruaud-L, LLC, Talbot, L-Barton, Lynch-Bages …

Enjoyed the read. I’m mostly impressed with the vintage.
1985 Rauzan Segla had been a consistent high-level performer every single time I’ve had it.

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The 85 Lynch Bages remains one of my favorite Bordeaux’s of all time……alas, the last time I drank one was probably 15 years ago……happy to see that it is still in fine form!

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LOL, the last time I compared them, my 86 was corked :persevere:

Quite a great evening, that’s a hell of a lineup for the 40th birthday present! I’ve had a handful of these wines over the past year. I think 1985 and 1983 is showing so beautifully right now.

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Agreed on the 85 Ramon. I was fortunate to get a case from Peter at Sokolin in the late 80s for $175 a case. Every bottle drank well, now they’re all gone.

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Heck of a bargain. If only I knew what I know now. :wine_glass: :grin:

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In that era, the only Rausan Segla I had was the 1986. It was fabulous.

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Tasted it several times against the Margaux, and preferred each time.

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Drank '85 PLL and PB side by side last month. Both were singing and I got no herbal notes from the PLL. It was more tertiary than the PB but the aromatics were incredible. The PB took a while to come around but still had pretty red fruit with some air. Opening another PLL on my 40th next month and hoping for a similar experience!

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