12 Angry men: Who Are They

I believe that Gil was an Angry alternate rather than an actual Angry, with the handle “10 Pounds of Merde In A 5-Pound Bag”…

Or, more accurately and in French, “10 kilos de connerie dans un sac de 5 kilo.” It has been empirically proven that Gil’s connerie = 2.2 x regular, garden variety merde.

If Gil is 2.2 x regular merde, what factor does Rosania use? Surely an exponent, rather than a multiplier. Multipliers are for those more common than Big Boy…

Interesting- Was at Marea recently and saw bottles of Leoville Las Cases and Bechyville going by and I remarked to my friend, Wilfred van Gorp- what kind of jerk drinks Medocs with Italian food? As we left I got my answer- It was JK. I am not at liberty to add certain things here about that night but any friend of Don Cornwell or Wilfred could ask them for details.

As far as the comments on GLS–

1- He was once lecturing my wife on the education system in America, totally talking over her and putting down anything she said. She informed him that she works in the field of improving/ organizing the education system and is currently expanding her Master’s degree into a PhD in the philosophy of school education, but this did not slow him down a bit and he just kept going.

2- In Europe- I gave a lecture on wine that he attended. (very few Anglophones in attendance) I was told by the organizer to give the lecture in French. Afterwards, in the question section, Gil gets up in front of the 150 attendees and complains that I did not give it in my native tongue (English, but there was simultaneous translation- and Gil is fluent in French ) and then sought me out later to give me some more grief about this.

Golf clap!

x2.
You would think,but my thoughts are that they would only be furious to be seen as publicly humiliated/losing big face …on a larger venue than this…and rationalizations are cheap these days.

not to be argumentative, but I don’t get this at all.

Same here. Philip, can you honestly say the only times you drink French wine are when you’re eating French cuisine?

I agree…sounds like all kinds of wine snobbery going on…

I get it completely, I have to say. There’s clearly a certain snobbish element in any kind of wine appreciation whether one likes it or not and there’s not much harm in that. To posit that bordeaux wines don’t go with Italian food is merely to state the obvious, as it it is to say that piedmontese wines don’t go with tuscan dishes. It’s perfectly possible to say that it doesn’t matter if it tastes good but that is akin to saying that nothing matters, which is a reasonable but depressing point to make.
Interestingly many very good restaurants in Italy offer excellent non Italian wine. If you are not Italian it is the height of bad form to order them.

I don’t much enjoy French wines in any other context, Brian.

with all due respect, this is a ridiculous statement – one that is akin to saying that meat doesn’t go with sauce. are there some italian dishes that are not well paired with bordeaux wines? I should think almost certainly so. but the notion that no italian dish could ever “go” with bordeaux is, frankly, absurd.

I love Marea and do not think that Medocs are a good match for the dishes that I like to eat there. Champagne, Chablis, and red Burgundy, yes, among others. But not Bordeaux and especially not Medoc. It would never occur to me to drink left bank Bordeaux there.

You make a good point, but if i am with friends…bring a nice bordeaux and the table next to me turns to each other and calls me a jerk over the bottle I brought…trust me we would have issues. There’s people who are very concerned about wine and food pairing…and then there are douchbags…

+1000

Did he seem offended at your comment? I ask because one time not too long ago, Wilfred posted a photo of a Bordeaux which he had brought with him to RPM Italian. I jokingly teased him about bringing Bordeaux to an Italian restaurant. I did not think to call him a jerk.

As M. Kaplan stated above, it is not a matter of wine snobism but rather wine- food paring.

Should have specified the menu at Marea rather than making a generic comment about Italian food.

Sounds like a bunch of BS to me. There are many who don’t live by your wine-food pairing rules. We usually begin our evenings with a primer wine be it champagne or a nice red/white Burgundy. The only consideration I have at that time is what wine am I in the mood to drink. And I could care less what others are pairing their food with.

So the person’s a jerk because he can’t pair wine and food?

Forget about the originals with the cutesy nicknames…we now have the 12 Angry Food-and-Wine Pairing Men!