Tell me more about these mountain geishas…!
theyre exactly like you are imagining…gorgeous, high end, subservient coffee beans
You and me both, Sarah. Preach!
There’s a wide variety of coffee lovers here and many of us are not quite in that geek category like you find on coffee message boards. For me, I like this thread better than the coffee boards because I don’t seek as much of the adventure and squeezing out the n-th degree of perfection. I seek a balance between a very high quality cup, convenience of equipment prep and clean up, and consistency. I also prefer a medium roast (too dark for most geeks today) and don’t value variation as much as those really into coffee. I want a few great cups in the morning. I think there is a place for folks like me here trying to use low effort cost techniques to get me to my goal.
I agree that like every thread on WB everyone should feel welcome to comment with what ever level of understanding they posses. All opinions and perspectives are welcome!
This is more so what I’ve found myself reverting back to. And why I think I’ve found myself drinking more pourover vs espresso these days. Espresso is too finicky with light roasts. I have it dialed into a grind size and taste that I like, then the next day it’s same grind size but the shot runs slower or faster. I get much more consistency for less effort with pourover.
This is pretty common with light roast lovers, myself included. I prefer ultralight washed coffees for filter, but those same coffees are so difficult to dial in for espresso. So naturally I just end up drinking less espresso. I don’t have a fancy machine either so the process of it all is kind of a hassle, not something I want to faff around with in the mornings
yeah for me pulling a shot is a 30 min commitment, especially with a lever machine that needs manual pre heating. Sometimes the results are worth it….other times I go drink my battery acid in shame
This is kind of where I am, with the exception that I’m more light to light/medium. It’s interesting that even though I consider a high quality cup of coffee to be a special experience, I haven’t felt an urge to really go all in. Of course I say that and yet I keep a spreadsheet to track my method, grind size, bloom volume/time water ratio, temp etc etc and then related tasting notes, along with suggestions of which variable, if any, do I want to adjust next time. So maybe I’m a bit more into it than I’m admitting to myself ![]()
I would say anyone reading with interest or posting in this thread is already far down the road towards geekdom compared to even the people claiming to be coffee lovers. Some of us just haven’t gone all the way to the extreme, although I am thankful to have some of those chiming in here to give me their thoughts.
If you’re taking tasting notes with brew details, I’d say you are really into it. Enjoy!
listen to yourself hahahah
Be careful with the, “….the people claiming to be…” bit. To me, when I read that regardless of context, it (in my eyes) puts the poster into the snob range. I don’t do anything special for my coffee, but I absolutely love coffee. I don’t claim to, I do. For someone to tell me I don’t actually love coffee because I don’t got to great lengths would tick me off.
Sorry to jump on you, but that always gets me a little sidways.
FWIW, I had in mind the people who consider themselves coffee lovers and seek out Starbucks and claim to be serious about coffee. Sure, they have every right to love it, but that won’t be taken seriously in the coffee world. And that’s fine too.
I would equate it to the big fans of The Prisoner for wine. They can like it just fine, but if that is your north star, you won’t get far in a wine community discussion.
But, I get your point and I may be a snob about my own coffee (to some degree) and wine, but I wouldn’t be condescending towards someone saying they love coffee despite drinking gas station brew. Hey, they are a lover of what they drink. To each their own. They just won’t be in the conversation when discussing burrs or brew temps.
Great explanation, Chris. Thank you. I understand what you mean/meant much better.
I haven’t seen any discussion of the MoccaMaster Technivorm in this thread. I bought one for Christmas as my wife and I were definitely in need of a new coffeemaker, but my wife vetoed it upon opening knowing how much it cost. And seems impossible to believe it actually makes a difference in the taste of the coffee.
Does anyone on this thread vouch for the Technivorm or is it all hype?
One note: only having a 10 cup capacity and no timer switch are major negatives. Great taste would overcome those. But absent that, the negatives are material.
Yes. It’s the best drip coffee maker, bar none, especially the old style with the thermal carafe. It is not hype. My understanding is that it’s all about the precise temperature control of the water, possibly the spread of water over the grounds, but not sure about that paet. I couldn’t care less about a timer, as I measure and grind the beans every time. I stop the cycle when the hopper is full for a sit of a few minutes no big deal. I would never use anything else. I also would not want a larger capacity, except for the once every 5 years I have people over for brunch. I like my coffee super fresh, just make more if I need it.
What Sarah said. I’m on my second (20+ years) and my daughter bought one when she moved out. I’ve seen some complaints about the evenness of the spray on the grounds, but pausing it for a minute or two covers the bases for me
I got my Moccamaster last year, and just love the coffee.
Agree the 10 cup capacity is a bit of a limitation (but not so much for me as a single person), but not the timer. It only takes 5ish minutes to brew so I don’t need the timer.
Now I am just itching to get back home to order some of those beans that Sarah recommended last week.
Yes, but remember, you’re in your prime. ![]()
My wife and I sit around all morning with nothing to do but drink coffee. I suppose we could make a second pot.
Thanks, I’ll have to see if I can get her to reconsider.
I hope you like them! Whenever I am away from home the thing I miss most is my coffee. Price isn’t bad, either.