Wow, unknown to me: Borne of Fire cabernet...96 points and under 20 bucks.

96 points - James Suckling said, “This is the first year made of this wine with wonderful blackberries, rose leaves and blueberries. Wildly floral. Stems. Full body and round and fine tannins. Juicy and intense. Shows an eccentric style. All large oak. A new nature and personality. Drink now or hold.”

20 bucks per bottle, 229 per case.

Never had it, never heard of it, dubious of some reviewers’ scores.

It’s presented by Chateau St. Michelle, who is fine by me.

Has anybody had this?

Back the truck up? Run and don’t look back?

K&L has been pushing this one. So far I have taken a “too good to be true” position. Isn’t that the way these things usually go? Still, I would be interested in reading about others impressions - those that have actually tasted it. Cheers!

I liked it a lot. Not sure it’s 96 pts but it’s great qpr; I put away a case.

OK, then!

I will give it a go!

Thank you!

I had it. Not a bad wine but I gave it 88 points. 96 points is a joke. Suckling has completely destroyed the credibility he had when he left Spectator.

They’ve gone off-dry with their reds in recent vintages to my perception, which is backed up by the LCBO website.

http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/chateau-ste-michelle-cabernet-sauvignon-2015/269357#.W1Es2PZFxaQ
http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/chateau-ste-michelle-merlot-2015/486936#.W1EsuPZFxaQ
http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/chateau-ste-michelle-indian-wells-cabernet-sauvignon-2014/55764#.W1EtCvZFxaQ

Not Apothic Red, (17 g/l), Caymus (10 g/l), or even Prisoner (8 g/l) territory, but 5 g/l is definitely across the dry line (3 g/l) for me.

Picked up some from Wine Exchange, and probably will get more. Great bargain for $20, nice story for Realm fans (I am a big one), and has been a good crowd pleaser. Pretty nice bottle and label for the price.
An easy try for me at $20.

Correction: Mixed up with Arbalest on the Realm and heavy bottle, nice label. That would be another thread for a $20 bottle.

Suckling 96= 90-91.

But who scores these days anyways.

“The Burn: Borne of Fire” sounds like the worst Young Adult adventure novel ever written.

It’s way too good to be true. It’s not bad wine, by any means, and it is drier than Intrinsic, which I believe is also from CSM, but that score is hilarious.

When you say it like that, it sounds like something you’d need a shot to cure.

89 from Wine Spectator. Remember when he scored the 2007 Ruffino Modus at 96? Finished my last one recently and loved it.

Suckling 96 on a New world wine is pretty much an 85-88-and-run-the-other-way proposition. Maybe wines taste better out of his branded stemware, but I can’t imagine anyone whose palate seems to subsume more fresh oak like it wasn’t there.

:stuck_out_tongue:

Indeed it does. That’s what happens when you have too many hazy nights overseas.

Although Spectator does not always match the palates of the beserkers community or the cellartracker assesment opinions, here they are pretty close. The average on CT is 88.9 over 16 reviews which jibes well with WS. Of course I trust my own palate, but without tasting find the CT community more accurate than critics whose job it is to support the wine business. Suckling is so gratuitous with 100 point scores, that he makes Parker, Dunnuck and others look totally stingy. Occasionally his scores are fair but I only trust them when I see a general consensus from other more conservative critics.

Borne of fire sounds a little bit dangerous/dicey in an area recently wreaked by fires.

I remember that, bought some Modus, drank one, gave the rest as gifts and never seriously considered a James Suckling score again. That’s not hyperbole.

I haven’t had this wine, but Suckling scores are unreliable. It’s not that a high score from him is always “wrong,” but he also gives out 95+ scores to a lot of wines that I would
score in the mid to upper 80’s if you put a gun to my head. More importantly, I find the verbiage in his wine reviews often unreliable.

YMMV.

Bruce

Saw this at costco and had to try given this thread. Pretty monolithic and sweet to my taste. Not sure I will finish the first glass.