WineBid - Still Perplexed a Bit

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I understand that WineBid purchases wines directly from distributors and possibly wineries from time to time to offer on their site, and these are usually offered at pretty good prices.

It’s strange, though, to see somewhat larger quantities of ‘sought after’ wines - curious how that happens?

For instance, scanned for ‘mourvedre’ this morning and noticed that there are 10 bottles of Andremily’s Mourvedre available from the same ‘person’ - that has to be more than what anyone was offered, correct?

Just curious if others have seen this and how this might happen?

Cbeers

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Friend / family of the owner/wine maker?

A bunch of buddies all have it but One person submits them all for auction?

Brainstorming ideas. :slight_smile:

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Not sure how ‘common’ that would be . . .

My guess is it could be a friend - or it could be the winemaker doing it themselves?

Cheers

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Yes [snort.gif]

Seriously though, you would be surprised at what/how much/when/why people sell things at auction. Entirely possible the guy got a case, and had two bottles, thought it was gross, and sold them.

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Ian,

Pretty ‘rare’ that someone would get a case of this - kind of like someone getting a full case of SQN - probably not going to happen . . .

Cheers

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Hi guys

A bit sad for this to be our first post on this board, a big thanks to you all for the support over the last few years. We have really enjoys reading all of your thoughts on our small brand.

The answer is I don’t know how or where these bottles came from. Larry is correct in that our production is very small, and there simply is not enough of this wine produced to offer large allocations to any one customer. We do not offer this wine to distributors, so the bottles must be part of a consolidated lot from a number of customer, or possible fake. To be clear we do not, and do not know of anyone who sells our wine on Winebid. We do not play games with our customers, and find the suggestion highly offensive, but considering the source…

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I read it as someone posing a question, not a suggestion .

And "considering the source "???

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Wow, that was a shot.

[popcorn.gif]

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My guess is that someone signed up multiple times on the mailing list hoping this is the next SQN and is now flipping the wines. There are several bottles available on winesearcher so even though it is small production the wines are not that rare.

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I guess if you’re going to make your first post you might as well come out firing .

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I’ve seen someone post a picture of his “allocation” with case+ of the wine.

Not sure why you think it’s odd that people hoard sought after wine.

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A couple posts up Larry did question if the winemaker is selling it themselves.

Not sure what Larry’s intent was in posting this thread, but shots fired by both parties.

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Charlie,

My point - and only point - was that there have been a few instances of this type of activity in the last few months. In some cases, it does appear that WineBid itself is the seller as they are offering larger quantities of items at ‘buy now’ pricing. I’m assuming that in this situation, they are buying the wines directly for resale.

There are plenty of other sought after wines available on WineBid, but they are usually in single bottles or perhaps lots of 2 or 3. In this case, it is a single lot of 10 bottles.

I am not accusing anyone of anything - as I said, it is peculiar and I am just asking if others have noted with with other wines available . . .

I pointed activity like this out to another winemaker, who immediately realized that it was a distributor that was selling off ‘samples’ of wines and squashed it. They appreciated the heads up and took action.

That’s it - nothing more in it like that. But I guess ‘considering the source’ . . .

Cheers.

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I used the word question . As did Larry . A question is different from a suggestion . I am suggesting you should know the difference .

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Hoarding wine vs getting a case allocation via mailing list are different . Not sure if a case of this wine was available to a single buyer .

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Jim - thanks for posting!

I too find it weird that someone would have 10 bottles of the Mourvèdre to sell given that I couldn’t get my hands on a single bottle the first year after buying the Syrah for a few years. I think most people are in the same boat.

It is a shame for winemakers with limited abilities to get wine out to the community, and who price their wines affordably, to see folks selling their wines, and to see profit going to flippers. Unfortunately, a lot of wine being sold at auction doesn’t seem to come from folks whose “tastes have changed”. For better or for worse, wine has become a tool of speculation. Wine drinkers and collectors-who-drink-their-wine are hurt by this, but it has also allowed winemakers to price their wines higher to take advantage of the interest.

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Merely putting a question mark behind something doesn’t mean it’s just an innocent question. Larry said his guesses were a friend or the winemaker doing it themselves. Him adding a question mark at the end of it is less a question and more of a trailing accusatory thought.

We don’t know what issues Larry and Jim have with each other, but it’s clear there’s something.

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Come on, you posted

[quote=“larry schaffer”]
Not sure how ‘common’ that would be . . .

My guess is it could be a friend - or it could be the winemaker doing it themselves?

Cheers
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Nothing you’ve said has been an altruistic posting trying to help the winemaker find out if a distributor is dumping something. You straight out came up and said you think a friend or the winemaker is selling it on winebid. If you left your original post without followup, then I would believe you.

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Not to mention this speculation ‘wonders’ if the winemaker may be flipping bottles resulting in a higher price instead of allocating to a customer-posted on widely read forum so yeah, that doesn’t read great to the winemaker who is building his business brick by brick. Plus, you are speculating about 10 bottles, one time in this specific case. Not exactly an overwhelming pattern to call out a business owner on.

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Great post, agree completely.