Wine Tariffs discussion - NO POLITICS

E-mail back from Standish, tariff will be charged when the wine ships if it’s still in place. Release coming soon.

Instead of just giving you a thumbs up emoji, I’ll say that I am sorry you are in this position but appreciate what you are doing.

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Maybe what the USA needs to do is levy some hefty tariffs on TFA!!

It looks like the anti-American sentiment in Canada that was triggered by the tariffs is still going strong.

Also, I just love the phrase “mapleglazing.” :joy:

As tensions with their neighbor rise, Canadians are turning away from U.S.-made products. To appeal to increasingly anti-American shoppers, brands and retailers are touting–and in some cases embellishing–their Canadian credentials in a practice that’s become known as “maplewashing” or “mapleglazing.”

WSJ gift link:
https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/label-obsession-grips-canada-as-shoppers-shun-american-products-cc6332db?st=7xeMjo&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink

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Buy Beaver.

I just had some Canadian grape buyers down over the weekend to check in. They cannot commit to grapes again this year quite yet for the obvious reasons of uncertainty. I was particularly sad to learn that they flew down here to avoid the likelihood of getting stopped at the border for some random, unforeseen reason. I have to say that it is very hard to entirely sidestep policy and politics when they are directly affecting my business in both the winery and in the vineyard.

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I received this for a foil/capsule/closure supplier today:
Dear Business Partner,
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Due to recent global changes in trade agreements, we find it necessary to adapt established processes. The current unpredictability and difficulty in estimating long-term import fees for goods entering the United States prevent us from providing a definitive price confirmation for your order at this time.

Going forward, all new order confirmations will be issued as provisional, reflecting the applicable import tariffs. Should there be any adjustments, revised confirmations with updated fees will be provided.

For orders already confirmed but not yet delivered to the United States, we will revise the original confirmation and apply a surcharge to account for the updated import fees.
We want to assure you that we will reverse these adjustments as soon as market conditions stabilize. We appreciate your understanding and look forward to continuing our collaborative partnership."

I don’t have a better proposal for how to handle tariffs, but this is the stuff that requires trust between a buyer and seller. How does one know things were shipped promptly, what the actual import date was, etc. I sympathize with both sides of the market here.

I thought you California people went to Del Taco, not Taco Bell.

I would think one could ask for documentation of tariffs paid to CBP, which would show date and applicable rates.

I imagine teh real issue for businesses is not knowing what the tariff will be and thus not able to decide whether it’s worth paying it vs. cancelling the transaction.

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Shoot.

I just had mine stuffed last week.

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I don’t think I’ve ever been to a Del Taco. There isn’t one in the central Bay Area, looks more like a socal thing, with a few in the central valley. In my younger days, it would have always been Roberto’s, particularly the Ocean Beach location, which is still there, or El Indio near Old Town. Nowadays there are taco trucks all over that serve much better food than any of the chains.

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Are you thinking that a company would charge a tariff they never paid?

I haven’t been following the wine tariff news as closely, but I placed an order with a Canadian coffee company that recommended to order by 4/XX to avoid tariff issues. I had no issues, but if you place your order by the recommended date and it gets shipped a day late by accident then you could theoretically get hit with the tariff.

Yes you do, and things happen. That’s just life.

Thanks for the input!

That’s certainly doable for a large asset purchase (for example one of my colleagues has a disgorging machine in route and he is tracking this closely— and has learned that all goods en route before April 5 have a grace period but must be in port by May 27th). After sending the note from the capsule/foil provider (above), I received several emails from suppliers yesterday noting that their pricing will increase on May 5th to account for the 10% across the board tariff (for foreign goods not in the NA trade accord). This includes our local mom and pop winery supply store in Newberg for small routine items (bungs, yeast, etc, etc) as well as tanks and other equipment— many/most are from Europe (France and Italy for the most part).

Looking forward to thoughts of UK tariff deal on wine imports from there

Who drinks UK wine?
I thought tariffs were country of origin based. Routing European wine through the UK doesn’t avoid anything.

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“Most restaurants refuse to serve them.”