I dunno, looks a little old and discolored if you ask me…
Does anyone have some backgrond on the domaine Louis-Claude Desvignes (Morgon Cote de Py)? The retail price is EUR 12.50 per bottle.
According to the wine merchant, this wine is meant for ageing, but does any actually have any experience with ageing this wine (or Beaujolais for that matter?
Virtually every pro tasting note (and at least one amateur note above) address, with caution and/or skepticism, the fact that Lapierre and others employ a no/low sulphur regimen. At a minimum, optimal storage conditions are recommended, which only makes sense. But can any one chip in with some hard-core drinking experiences, good or bad, on no/low-sulphur BoJos? It becomes particularly important if you drop $40 a bottle on something like Lapierre’s MMIX Morgon luxury cuvee that he says should not be touched for a minimum of a decade…
The pages of my cellar book are a medium ivory/gold-ish color. When I pull the labels, which I do with the Label Savers you can get at Wine Enthusiast, many of the labels are thin and show the color of the page beneath them. When I scan them, many seem to have a yellow-ish hue because of this, making them look older than they are.
@greg t – thanks! that was a really terrific post. great history and terroir info in one. ![[cheers.gif]](/uploads/db3686/original/2X/0/0ff9bfcdb0964982cd3240b6159868fbdf215b1a.gif "cheers"){kind=small}
doing a small 09 tasting later this week, so will post something then. my favorites are the usual suspects – thevenet, foillard, lapierre, metras — but i’ve enjoyed many a random chilled st amour on a warm summer day.
I reloaded on this Saturday:
2009 Domaine du Vissoux / Pierre-Marie Chermette Moulin-à-Vent Les Trois Roches - A stunning gamay, the soaring aromatics are of Grand Cru Burgundy quality - fresh picked blackberry/black raspberry, spice and mineral/earth notes. Wide open with a very weighty texture, it manages to be both serious and gulpable. A special wine.
Hey John, I was actually following J Holmes’ joke about your coq (no offense intended - though it may seem otherwise). 
Just testing the waters…
anyone up for extending this topic for another week? We could leave it open along with the Marsannay thread, both active until next Monday. I believe that there would be a great benefit to giving more time. It deserves it after all.
yes, please! 
Beaujolais was probably the region that made me interested in wine. When I was living in Nagoya, Japan, a department store had all of the Dubeouf Crus, each selling for about the same amount of money ($30, and this was early 90s), on a shelf. I think the fact that these all had something similar (flower label) but were different, made me think this wine thing was something worth exploring beyond the Nouveau craze. Even now I think I can enjoy what I enjoy about Burgundy (exploring terroir) in Beaujolais.
Oddly, I tend to enjoy the slightly lighter crus (Regnie, Chiroubles, even Fleurie) a bit more than some of the heavier ones (Morgon, Moulin a vent), simply because I find them to be livelier or fresher. I want a beaujolais that jumps around a bit I think.
I had a 2005 Diochon Moulin a Vent yesterday. It threw a bit of sediment, was tasty and solid/well-structured, but I didn’t find it all that lively. It probably wasn’t the best time to open the wine, but I was a bit tired of opening my 2009s.
You know, usually I pick up on that stuff pretty well. But this time, I’m slow as molasses!! ![[head-bang.gif]](/uploads/db3686/original/2X/b/b1cd199e4b2b2988b5107c3c9598fd28dc92a776.gif "[head-bang.gif]"){kind=small}
Usually my response is “It’s hard to be humble”.
Sipping on a 2009 Daniel Bouland Morgon Vieilles Vignes Corcelette and I have to say this wine really took me by surprise. It is by far what I consider the most atypical beaujolais Ive had from the 09 vintage. Now as a wine on its own I found it pretty enjoyable and probably still an ok value for $20, but it seemed way overblown for what Im used to with bojo. The fruit was a bit heavy and leaned towards overripe even approaching some prunish territory. Overall the wine was still had the good structure, acidity and tannin you would expect, but the extraction levels are way up there. Red refreshing strawberry is no where to be found sans a hint on the nose. I havent seen any notes here on this but I would think this wine might be very polarizing?
I had the Melanie from this producer and do not remember it approaching this kind of “largeness” or extraction. I have some Delys and will pop one soon to see how it stacks up.
As I shared these bottles with Ray, I thought I’d chip in with my first tasting note on Wine Berserkers. I don’t typically write up Burgundy tasting notes as this could constitute a form of conflict of interest. In the case of Beaujolais, I can think of myself as a regular customer/ wine drinker.
2005 Moulin à Vent, Domaine du Morier :
This Domaine apparently belongs to the Chandon de Briailles family of Savigny fame.
Nose of black cherries, hint of spices and mulled wine with some cinnamon and cloves. My guess would be that this is 100% destemmed, but I may be wrong. The palate is fresh and lively, with firm tannins, at least initially. This is mineral and structure driven, rather than fruit forward frilly fun. Perhaps this is the power of suggestion, but I find this distinctly Côte D’Or in style and not that obviously Beaujolais.
2009 Chénas, Ultimate Climat:
I quite agree with Ray. While it improved with air, this wine is Ultimately Boring.
Almost made it, but after being invited to lunch they didn’t open the 2008 Fleurie, La Roilette Vieilles Vignes from Metrat which I contributed - curses! Chose not to complain and drank the Pinot Gris from Luxembourg instead.
Oh well, next time!
its open until next Monday if you are still interested in posting some notes
2008 Jean Foillard Cote du Puy Morgon: Very nice. Bright, high toned cranberry and raspberry notes, smokey orange zest, freshly butchered red meat…a hint of something herbal. Racy palate, medium body, more structure than you might think. Long, spicy finish. Nice with food, will benefit from a bit more cellar time. Very sophisticated for a gamay!
2006 Louis Jadot Moulin-à-Vent Clos de Champ de Cour Château des Jacques
Medium red color with medium transparency. Aromas of plum and cherry and a floral note. Palate has initial tannic grip that recedes with two hours of air. Fruit notes are of sweet red plum, medium cherry, a hint of blood, a hint of iron, and a floral plum finish that is medium length. This shows a lot of structural refinement and is a nice cru Beaujolais that is built to age. It will improve over the next 5-10 years and should drink well into the 2020s (depending upon how much aged character you like in your wine). Drink or hold.
2007 Drouhin Morgon - Raspberry/blueberry on the nose follows through on the palate with a kind of coarse raspy texture. There is an exaggerated acidic lift which gives a slight metallic tinge to the finish. This seems rather thin compared to some 2009’s I’ve had and I must say I probably wouldn’t reload on this.
Geez, who is selling Garants at $14.95? These grapes come from and area of Fleurie that, like that for Coudert’s Roillette, was formerly classified Moulin-a-Vent.
Thivin’s Cote de Brouilly is a long-term wine, especially from a good year. His 05’s have barely budged, will need a good five years more and last well beyond that.
From recent notes, it seems like the Roillette CT is closing down.
Desvignes’s Morgon is a serious wine that, by reputation, should have 10-15 years in the cellar in a good year. I opened an 07 recently, and it started to hint at very fine quality the second day, but still years off normal drinking. At<13 Euros, if you like to cellar wine, a definite buy.
Alright, lets push the discussion just a bit further:
Who are your favorite producers of Cru Beaujolais?
Which other vintages have you enjoyed?
Has there been a stylistic shift through the last several years, outside of 2009?
What are a few of your favorite Crus?