Why do you write Tasting Notes (TNs)?

A bit of a ramble this one, as there’s more than just the headline question.

I’m interested in your ‘journey’ in writing tasting notes, how you started, what’s influenced you, what’s changed over time, what you’re aiming for in writing a tasting note and indeed why do you write them.

Even if you don’t write tasting notes, you’re very much welcome to say why, as that’s equally interesting.



For me, I started because I felt rather ignorant when writing scribbled notes when tasting with the wine tasting group I started with (people who over time became strong friends, where wine is now just one facet of our friendship). I felt my ability to express myself was extremely limited, like trying to speak a language without sufficient vocabulary.

Two books and one amateur strongly influenced me. The two books were on wine tasting - Michael Broadbent’s ‘Wine tasting’ and Michael Schuster’s ‘Essential Winetasting’, with the latter being more influential, as I liked the structured approach he brought to it. Both helped with the vocabulary, but also in how to approach it. The amateur was TORB (Ric Einstein) in Australia, as his multi-choice tasting sheet helped me be confident in the vocabulary (even though I maybe only used that sheet a couple of times). In addition, his reminder to focus on the structural elements resonated with me, as my original reference point was the fanciful fruit salad descriptors of Oz Clarke and Jilly Goolden on a UK TV show, and I found those rather too fanciful.

At that tasting group, we (like many others I suspect), used to write notes on eye, nose, taste, with a final box for additional thoughts and/or an overall feeling. Whilst I still follow that same sequence, I try to avoid being overly regimented/repetitious in how I write it, seeking a more natural style of writing. That’s probably the big change that happened over time.

One aspect I’ve tried to avoid (not always successfully!), is mimicking the stridency of critics. Thus I’m primarily looking to describe what I experienced with that glass of wine, but not trying to make it a definitive statement, and linked to that I don’t assign scores. I understand why critics feel the need to sound authoritative, but I’m not trying to mimic them.

I don’t write TNs as often as I used to do in the past, but I still do like doing it to ‘keep my eye in’. They’re useful to return to e.g. a reminder that I’d tasted wines from that producer and enjoyed them (or not!), or to compare experiences with someone here / elsewhere. If they’re of use to someone else, then super, but I’d hate to think anyone took my notes as anything but an opinion. 2nd hand recounting of a wine, is never a substitute for tasting the wine ourselves.

There’s one other useful reason for writing a TN… In writing it in Cellartracker (CT), it makes it natural to do so as part of removing the wine from inventory there. Thus it’s a great way of ensuring my inventory in CT is reasonably accurate.

So that’s my journey, how about your own?

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My notes are an ill-defined mashup of cataloging the experience, tracking the evolutionary arc of the wines I drink, and bread crumb trail to help my memory if I’m trying to find a profile for an occasion. Cellar inventory has drifted out of compliance with CT records, so a lot of things aren’t set up for an automatic prompt for a note when I drink them. If I know a wine is in CT, I make a feeble attempt at writing a note and removing it within a week of drinking. I gave up assigning points long ago but will do so in a structured tasting where votes are being taken on preferences. I have adopted the practice of assessing readiness at the end of my notes. I find that information helpful in the notes of others.

Cheers,
fred

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I wrote TNs mostly as a reminder to myself. In many cases it’s a simple matter of having a record to say to future self “No, you fool, it’s still not going to be ready!” I also think the exercise of writing down impressions helps me become a better taster.
I avoid a laundry list of aromas and tastes unless they really leap out at me - if it’s a long list it usually means I really found a lot of complexity. Sometimes a single unusual impression comes to me as I taste and I note that. But in general I am not going to compete with professional critics who can do a much better job picking out taste profiles and describing them. Yes, even with critic bingo.
I score wines mostly as a companion to a TN rather than a summary of it. I don’t take scores particularly seriously, least of all my own. But I can look back at a TN and a score and have a good idea of what I thought about a wine.
Occasionally a wine will really spark a thought process (not always a complimentary one) and I will just go on a tangential rant. I hope these amuse others on CT - but the point is not really to entertain. It’s again a personal reminder of that moment.

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To punch up my post count

I find TNs force me to focus on the wine, describe it in my mind, and then share my impressions with others. Who may or may not find them useful/helpful/enlightening/revealing/mind-boggling. I generally keep the notes pretty basic and avoid the fruit-salad descriptors (smells of Indigo Guava smoked over lightly-roasted teak wood from the Okefenokee swamp at full tide), which most people can’t relate to.
I’ve been taking TNs forever. Originally on cuneiform tablets when I would barrel taste w/ Pliny the Elder. A big breakthrough came when I could attach a USB Port to my cuneiform tablet and download them to alt.food.wine. But the line speeds were slow & I had to warn people they were (long/boring).
But I certainly find TNs useful to take and many other’s TNs useful to read.
Tom

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I chuckled at this, as I’ve also completely ignored my own advice on previous occasions, with unsurprising results :laughing:

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Ooh yes! This is a superb reason, and one that helps bring a focus beyond wine merely being a background alcohol hit, but something to take time over, and writing a TN helps that.

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Mostly to remember what I thought of the wine. I hate when I have a case and drink one and forget to write a note and then go to pull another one and can’t remember what I thought about it the first time. Especially when I open it again and then remember exactly how I thought it wasn’t anywhere near ready yet…

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When I first got into wine in the early 1980s, I went to numerous tastings, festivals, seminars, events and tried many different wines from all over. When it came time to make a purchase, I found that I did not always remember the details about a specific wine, be it the vintage or vineyard or producer, etc. So, I started taking notes.

I used medical abbreviations for short handed, brief notes that I would eventually redo on the computer and place the notes in dedicated folders for future reference.

The biggest challenge was for me to put into words what I was experiencing in my olfactory, taste and tactile senses. I’ve been taking notes now for 40+ years and it is still a challenge.

Early on and still, I’ve been involved in wine groups to do tastings and share wines and always take notes. Others began to inquire what my notes stated and some asked for me to share them which I did with the caveat that these were just my impressions of what I got at that time for that bottle and they or others might find entirely different things. And so it grew and now I have close to 100 folks who receive all notes I write up. Plus, I started to post them on the Parker Board back in the early 2000s and then here on WB after leaving Parker.

In the last few years, I’ve been doing much more blind tasting and that is so humbling and educational. It certainly allows us to discover more precisely what characteristics and aspects of a wine makes up our preferences without a lot of subjectivism.

And on top of all of that, when writing up notes on most wines, I try to do a little research to learn more about the producer, wine making style, vineyard/ terroir contributions, vintage and anything else that is pertinent to the wine as well as pricing and availability.

So, thanks for asking and hopefully my share here will be of value to others as my notes are intended to be.

Cheers,
Blake

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Writing tasting notes helps me remember more about the wine and the evening, especially if I’m going back and rereading them/trying to figure out when I might have had something. I try to write notes that I might find helpful if I were to see them, give overall impressions of the flavors and structure without being too overt. I also find that I might be the first to write a note in CT on a particular wine/vintage, so in the off chance someone is waiting for a note before opening a bottle, I’m more than happy to be the one to break the ice.

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I am not great with descriptions but I write when the wine hits me on an emotional level, or stirs up memory links. I also will try to write up a wine that confuses me. I wouldn’t try to write up a Rhys Pinot because it is very familiar and others have done so more accurately than I would. I love their wine but don’t have anything original to say about it.

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In the beginning it helped me develop my palate by looking for different aspects of a wine. These days it’s to first force me to focus in the wine rather than just drink causally. Secondly to share my thoughts on wines I find interesting or moving with other enthusiasts…

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To practice describing the indescribable.

A LOL from me, but your post is a very fair reminder that it’s a near impossibility to fully and accurately describe a wine, notwithstanding the palate differences we have, making any tasting note a long long way from being ‘definitive’. That still leaves room for them to be useful though :sunglasses:

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It’s an interesting question. To some extent, tasting notes written by amateurs are self-indulgent - no one has asked me to write them. I’m also quite aware that my notes are idiosyncratic - they provide an idea of what I thought about that particular wine, but are not intended to be helpful to anyone else. Of course, if anyone has a similar palate to mine, they might be, but that’s just dumb luck :slight_smile: I also rarely go back and read my own notes, since I tend to have a reasonably good memory of what I drink. So I would say I mostly write the notes to formulate my own thoughts better - the notes are the more final expression of initial less well formed thoughts. I also don’t use scores for this reason; if I write a tasting note for my own benefit, scoring the wine makes no sense unless I keep some kind of spreadsheet of those scores.

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I started taking TNs when I was just getting into wine, as a means of remembering which grocery store wines I liked and which ones I didn’t.

As my interest in the hobby grew, I continued taking them as a means of learning and honing my palate. Like TomHill said, above, I feel writing a tasting note helps me focus. There are certain things I assess – or at least intend to assess – with every tasting note I write; my TNs are on the more boring side of things, usually in the same format I’ve been using since I started — this is, in part, borne of the rote consistency I strive to achieve with my TNs — but they usually cover the bases I deem most important.

Now, I continue to take notes so I continue learning, and so I have something to guide me with future purchasing and when-to-open-that-bottle decisions. Many times I’ve found myself in a store, considering the purchase of a wine, and so I go to CT to see what folks are saying about it (hopefully one or two of my Favorite Tasters have a TN on the wine!), and when I navigate to the wine’s page I see a TN from me already there! Usually, that saves me from buying a relatively boring wine again.

Finally, the TN entry into CT is how I do my inventory. If I don’t write a TN, the empty bottle stays on the kitchen counter until I remove it from inventory. If I wrote a TN (in my little notebook, later to be transcribed into CT, and then posted on WB), then I will just put the empty into the recycling bin. If I ever lose that TN notebook I’ll be one to three months screwed on inventory, as that is usually how far behind I am with my transcription and posting. {knocks on wood}

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I do it for the likes on CT.

In sincerity, there are a handful of purposes that support my practice. When I first started, it was a useful exercise to force me to analyze what’s in the glass and expand my descriptive vocabulary. Almost like journaling, it has served as a catalogue of my wine journey. I’ve logged a little over 3500 notes in the last 10 years, and it’s been interesting to follow the number of wines tasted each year, type, region, and average score. I write a note on probably 75% of what I taste and tend to include scores as an overall gestalt for my own use. I really appreciate it when folks like @Otto_Forsberg and @Blake_Brown include technical facts or really any information beyond subjective impressions.

Formatting wise, I tend to dictate a small paragraph, including the most oustanding features of the wine and what if anything makes it distinctive from the rest. I’m looking for features that would help me identify that wine again in the future. More than anything, writing the TN helps to cement the memory of the wine in my mind. And I do review my notes from time to time, which further solidifies things.

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I didn’t know writing tasting notes was a thing. I went to a Cellartracker group event in OC and @Brian_G_r_a_f_s_t_r_o_m was there writing notes. I was intrigued. I was probably annoying him and he gave me a piece of paper and a pen and said “here you go, start writing”. 4,000 notes later. LOL

I write them because I enjoy it. I write them “for myself” and if others enjoy them too, bonus. Over time the reasons I enjoy writing have changed.

If I’m not in the mood to write then I don’t and won’t worry about it. In fact, sometimes I’ll intentionally not take notes and focus on the other facets that sharing a bottle enables like great conversations, making new friends, or just enjoying that glass of wine in the moment without judgement.

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I started writing tasting notes when I first started drinking wine to help me focus on the wine and learn the vocabulary. I write my notes in composition notebooks (on volume VI now) and constantly look back at notes from previous vintages to see how the wines differ. I am constantly learning from wine. My notes have evolved over time with more emphasis on how the wine is drinking and what I experience in the glass.

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I started writing notes in order to commit the experiences to memory. The act of writing things down helped commit them to my mind. As I became more comfortable with wine I began to think more about how I experienced the wine beyond just taste. Did it evoke something or trigger an emotion. These days I write notes partially because that’s what I do. The rest is more abut trying to capture the special bottles in a way that describes why they are special, rather than just the dry litany of aromas and flavors. I am a little bit disappointed when a wine doesn’t trigger something, good or bad.

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